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Watching Harry Potter with [livejournal.com profile] torrain. Fuck "dark arts", Hogwarts needs a Phys Ed instructor. 4/5 of all Wizzard problems could be solved be "see how he depends on his wand and 3 seconds to aim and speak? Grab it and punch him in the face, that takes 1 second".
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Date: 2011-08-24 01:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] interactiveleaf.livejournal.com
It has occurred to me that a crowd of Slayers could've taken out most of the army in part 8, yeah.

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Date: 2011-08-24 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
We're on part 3. Or 4. I can't tell.

Also: Fuck Buffy. A crowd of *perfectly normal Muggles* would eat 99% of all wizards alive.
Edited Date: 2011-08-24 01:28 am (UTC)

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Date: 2011-08-24 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Why don't all wizzzards carry *two* wands, anyway? Being rendered completely helpless because your wand is stolen is, uh, UNIVERSAL.

And yet, nothing stops anyone from using anyone ELSE'S wand to cast spells. So wand choice is obviously bullshit.

Shitty worldbuilding is typical for tween-lit, I suppose.

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Date: 2011-08-24 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] interactiveleaf.livejournal.com
Well, I was thinking in terms of "a crowd" taking out "an army". The army in question is so weak that they don't stand a chance against most. They seem to require line-of-sight to act, and they need their weapons to be order to do anything.

A (well-armed) army of muggles could've also taken out the army of wizards. Bu ta mere crowd of slayers could've done the same.

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Date: 2011-08-24 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] interactiveleaf.livejournal.com
Because the only real way your wand can be stolen is by a wizard stronger than you, which would make the second wand superfluous?

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Date: 2011-08-24 03:51 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drcuriosity
Because there's never a situation when casting a magical spell where you might want to point in two directions, or be maintaining both an offensive and a defensive spell AT THE SAME TIME?

Seriously. Parrying wand.

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Date: 2011-08-24 03:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] interactiveleaf.livejournal.com
There is never a situation wherein your attention ought to be divided. The only people who can manage a two to one situation in the first place are the exceptional, and the only people who can manage three to one situations are the truly extraordinary . . . exactly as it would be in a physical, non magical fight.

If such a situation occurs, it's because you're so damned outnumbered in the first place that you're going to lose.

How's that?

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Date: 2011-08-24 04:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drcuriosity
Weak. First assertion is begging the question.

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Date: 2011-08-24 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eris-esoteric.livejournal.com
I love me some Harry Potter, but this has ALWAYS been my very biggest problem with the entire premise. Keep spreading the good word!

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Date: 2011-08-24 04:27 am (UTC)

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Date: 2011-08-24 04:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kafziel.livejournal.com
See also: owning a gun.

I know it's England, but shit, if you are a goddamn wizard i bet you could get your hands on something with some stopping power.

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Date: 2011-08-24 05:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spartonian.livejournal.com
I know it's England, but shit, if you are a goddamn wizard i bet you could get your hands on something with some stopping power.

Football hooligans

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Date: 2011-08-24 06:09 am (UTC)

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Date: 2011-08-24 07:34 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] andrewducker
Actually, not universal. We see adults casting spells without wands. It's just, apparently, harder.

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Date: 2011-08-24 07:56 am (UTC)

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Date: 2011-08-24 08:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mejoff.livejournal.com
An off-hand defensive item is not exceptional.

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Date: 2011-08-24 08:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nancylebov.livejournal.com
If it's normal for wizards to get physical training, then the bad guys will probably have it, too. This would lead to livelier fight scenes, but not a guaranteed win for the good guys.

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Date: 2011-08-24 08:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captainweasel.livejournal.com
Hogwarts needs rational worldbuilding - or wizards would use shotguns.
*if* wizards all had simple, highly effective protections from physical weapons it'd explain why fights are all magical.
But this is the place they run around like idiots instead of casting "Detect Troll"

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Date: 2011-08-24 09:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com
I'm not sure "why don't you just punch them/use a gun" has come up in HP:MoR yet, has it?

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Date: 2011-08-24 10:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eruvadhril.livejournal.com
Potterverse wizards can cast Mage Armor as a minor action an unlimited number of times per day, and have DR 20/magic. That's why they can play a sport that involves flying dozens of yards above the ground with no safety net, and being bludgeoned by semi-aware cannon-balls.
Plus, wizards aren't proficient in firearms; they'd have to multi-class into Fighter or something.

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Date: 2011-08-24 11:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
Pfft, screw wands, I'm going to throw a rock.

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Date: 2011-08-24 01:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
.... no, I really did mean "a crowd of muggles" eating "99% of all wizards".

Like, at once.

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Date: 2011-08-24 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Which is transparently not true, since people take wands and disarm each other and simply pick pockets to steal wands *all the time*. Point your wand at someone's head when their back is turned and tell them to drop it? Happens all the fucking time!

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Date: 2011-08-24 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
We see Harry casting spells without his wand in the very first movie - but they're never *effective* or *directed* spells, and they're never *controlled* spells, and, I will point out, nobody ever tries to use magic without a wand when their life is in danger.

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Date: 2011-08-24 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
If it became universal, yes.

But right now, your average wizard running into a muggle in a bar is going to get beaten senseless. And the one wizard who learns how to throw a punch will be their king.
Edited Date: 2011-08-24 01:18 pm (UTC)
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