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[theweaselking]

Catholics object to Irish law requiring them to stop covering up the rape of children.

Cardinal Sean Brady called the practice of hiding child rapists a "sacred and treasured" rite.

The Archbishop of Armagh said "any intrusion upon it is a challenge to the very basis of a free society"

The government of Ireland, in the mean time, insists that aiding and abetting is aiding and abetting even when you do it because the voices in your head tell you to.

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[whisperkit.livejournal.com]

You have a way with words.

[sparkindarkness.livejournal.com]

Good. Simply good.

[publius1.livejournal.com]

This whole thing has made my blood boil for well on 30 years now (yes, I first heard about the child rape stuff in the Church in the 1980's, and I don't understand why people think it all started to become public much later) -- but what really got my goat was when the Church started blaming Teh Gay for all their problems. Fuckwads.

[undeadbydawn.livejournal.com]

well, when you have a religion staffed by gays who are in the job specifically because they feel guilty about being gays, and who are constantly working with young boys, and who are supposed to Not Have Sex, Not Ever, very bad things will probably happen.

[If you are institutionally not supposed to have sex AT ALL, any sex is very bad. Having sex with unwilling children is only a little bit worse, cos it's a huge sin whoever you do it with]

but that's OK, because then everyone involved knows that very bad things are happening, and everyone gets to feel Even More Guilty, and it is also by definition an Institutional Secret, policed by people who firmly believe that God is On Their Side [again, by definition]

an entire global religion powered by Guilt and Sexual Frustration. What could possibly go wrong?


Also: Well done Irish Government for fiiiiiiiiinally doing something that resembles the right thing

[cheshire-bitten.livejournal.com]

I believe (At least in Aus) that the majority of victims where female, and that the abuse of young boys was focused on because 1) it is more horrifiying, where as rape is something that just happens to women. 2) it allows blame to be pushed onto the gay, and totally not a problem with the whole church at all, noooo...

[undeadbydawn.livejournal.com]

absolutely.

systematic rape of Nuns was also reported then totally ignored a wee while back.

of course, reports of gay abuse are more likely to be prominent because the church is a bit anti-gay. Easier to blame it all on people who are inherently wicked sinners, right?

[uglychicken.livejournal.com]

Gah! The church has been whipping this whinefest up ever sense a reporter asked Shatter a question at a press conference. The legislation has nothing to do with the confessional, was not drafted with any thought to the confessional and no-one gives a shit about the feckin' confessional. In all the reports and commissions there wasn't a single reported instance of any of the abusers making a confession about the abuse they were committing. None of the massive, wholesale and ongoing cover-ups have even the tiny, invisible, non-existent fig-leaf of the seal of the confessional and even if they did, well, if your religious convictions mean that you will not report children who are being abused or in danger of being abused, then I'm sure you'll be perfectly happy to go to prison for that belief. You fucker.

[undeadbydawn.livejournal.com]

there's a film starring Linus Roache, called 'Priest'

I recommend you watch it. I raged over it for the best part of a year.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110889/

[uglychicken.livejournal.com]

Good film, though a friend of mine thought that the weakest part was the way the abuser comes on all Hannibal Lecter in the confessional, and I am inclined to agree with her.

[undeadbydawn.livejournal.com]

I do recall that being by far the most distasteful part

or utterly sickening.

the mother at the end was brutal, and I wasn't at all sure what to make of it. I was like 'how the fuck could you /not/ know?'

[uglychicken.livejournal.com]

If I'm remembering correctly, it was the girl who first told the priest under seal, and though he begged her to let him tell someone, she refused. That was fine, because a victim confiding in someone and then swearing them to secrecy, and the person wrestling with that, is believable, the seal of the confessional just added an extra dimension to it. It was the father working out what had happened and using the confessional to gloat that pushed it from drama to melodrama. The bit with the mother was, indeed, brutal, but her reaction to discovering the abuse suggested that she definitely had no idea.

[undeadbydawn.livejournal.com]

oh, ignore the related videos on imdb - they are for the totally unrelated new Priest which claims to be based on a rather good Manga series

[undeadbydawn.livejournal.com]

mysticism and superstition still have a place in modern society, but I'm totally with you on organised religion.

i was raised Protestant, and don't recall a time that I didn't find the whole deal utterly absurd.

and by mysticism, I mean the belief that there's more to life than physical existence [though that's pretty awesome all by itself]