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Date: 2012-03-13 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silmaril.livejournal.com
*scrolls down rapidly to "P", noting in passing that some of her favourites with truly starving artists are also there and getting pissed*

*finds Penny Arcade*

*reaches for popcorn*

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Date: 2012-03-13 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Penny Arcade is the big one, yeah, but Girl Genius also has money and vindictiveness, and so does PVP. And Order Of The Stick has about a million bucks in cash floating around this month, I suspect he can hire a lawyer long enough for a proper C&D + DMCA + ID. The Trenches is a Penny Arcade sideproject. LICD, LFG, and The Gutters are all made by the same guy with no shame and a willingness to hold a grudge. And there's basically every TopatoCo comic in there, and TopatoCo has lawyers and sarcasm, too.

Popcorn is, indeed, in order.

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Date: 2012-03-13 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] awesomelies.livejournal.com
And moreover, as my brother just pointed out to me, Order of the Stick guy also has a handy prima facie case that his intellectual property is worth a smallish fortune. Which I hope his lawyer has the chutzpah to demonstrate by dumping a truckload of dollar bills in front of the jury.

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Date: 2012-03-13 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thornae.livejournal.com
Something Positive (http://www.somethingpositive.net") is in there, too, and while he's not in the money, I for one would not want to cross Randy.

Especially when he quite clearly states in his faq (http://www.somethingpositive.net/aboutfaq.shtml") that he specifically does not allow this:


Q: Would you mind if I made an RSS feed that showed your comic?

A: Yes, I would mind. If I'm not offering people a way to bypass my site to mooch my content (and my bandwidth, which incidentally I have to pay for when people do this sort of shit - I'm not on KeenSpot so all the costs come from my pocket), why would I want someone else to do it? If you want to set up your own feed that tells you when the site updates (I've seen a few good ones) but doesn't image link the newest comic or download and host it somewhere else (yes, I'm opposed to THAT, too), go for it. But I don't like my content or bandwidth been leeched - just because it's free to you doesn't mean someone else isn't paying for it.
Seriously, I think it's nice and great you like my comic enough that you want to know EXACTLY when it updates and all, but it does put a strain on me as, as it is, we're almost maxing our alotted bandwidth.


See also the highly entertaining bit that begins

Q: You're a fucking thief! How do you justify taking people's money and not updating since July, 2004?

A: What the hell are you talking about? I've missed a handful of days, but I did not stop updating my comic.


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Date: 2012-03-13 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Notably, Something Positive has an RSS feed. It provides a link to see it on his site.

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Date: 2012-03-13 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thornae.livejournal.com
Yeah, his FAQ's a little dated. Actually, I think most of the listed comics have their own feeds, one way or another.

(The point, of course, is that their official RSS feeds tend to be links to the comic page and thus personal ad revenue, rather than images of the comic - with a few exceptions (http://xkcd.com/rss.xml)).

Also, I messed up that first link with a stray quote. Damned dodgy windows implementation of alt-grave dead keys.

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Date: 2012-03-14 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Even back then, he had a feed. It was just, like the current one, text-only, with a link to the site.

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Date: 2012-03-13 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snobahr.livejournal.com
I just opened my App Store, found the TWO apps (free and $1.99 versions), and flagged'em both as inappropriate: No agreement w/content creators.

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Date: 2012-03-13 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] le-trombone.livejournal.com
Good idea. I've just done the same.

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Date: 2012-03-13 04:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
Welcome to the Internet, where there's always a new scumfuck hiding under the next rock.

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Date: 2012-03-13 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
So since there's a handy list of webcomix there, what are you guyses favorites?

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Date: 2012-03-13 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Needs moar Dinosaur Comics.

(From that list? Questionable Content and Order Of The Stick rank very high.)

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Date: 2012-03-13 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] le-trombone.livejournal.com
From that list I'm reading:

"A Girl and Her Fed"
"Calamities of Nature"
"Darths And Droids"
"Girl Genius" (via its LJ community)
"Girls with Slingshots"
"Gunnerkrigg Court"
"Hark! A Vagrant" (via the author's LJ account)
"Order of the Stick"
"User Friendly" (sort of, I think it's still in re-run mode)
"Wondermark"
"xkcd"

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Date: 2012-03-13 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com
Schlock Mercenary (http://www.schlockmercenary.com/)
xkcd (http://xkcd.com/)
Freefall (http://freefall.purrsia.com/)

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Date: 2012-03-13 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skington.livejournal.com
Most of the webcomics I read are on that list.

Of the ones not on there, I'd recommend Skin Horse (http://skin-horse.com/) and El Goonish Shive (http://www.egscomics.com/) (the latter requires you to grit your teeth and suffer through really bad art if doing an archive binge, but it gets much better after a few years).

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Date: 2012-03-13 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thornae.livejournal.com
It is my considered opinion that Freefall is one of the best webcomics around today, and has been for quite a long time.

Good clean art, manages to have a really (really) good overarching SF storyline while still maintaining a setup-punchline three panel format, and has an anthropomorphic wolf as a main character with a genuinely solid, non-magical, believable scientific reason for existing. Also thoroughly PG, with the occasional topical joke. That it's never been picked up by a newspaper is further confirmation for me that they are relics of last century.

Apart from that, here's my categorization of the comics I know of from that list:

Ones I read regularly: Freefall, Something Positive, PvP, Girls with Slingshots, Scenes from a Multiverse, Sinfest, Penny Arcade.

Ones I forget to read quite as regularly, then go back and catch up with all the ones I've missed: xkcd, Three Panel Soul, Scandanavia and the World (plus all her other DA stuff), Sandra and Woo, SMBC, Abstruse Goose.

Ones I catch up on occasionally, but aren't bothered if I miss a few of: VG Cats, The Trenches, PHD Comics,

Ones I get the occasional chuckle from if I happen to see them linked from somewhere: A Softer World, AmazingSuperPowers, Cyanide & Happiness, Hark! A Vagrant, Perry Bible Fellowship (defunct), The Gutters, Wondermark, Buttersafe

Ones I used to enjoy but can't really be bothered with anymore: Red Meat, Sluggy Freelance, Sore Thumbs, User Friendly

Ones I really quite enjoyed and should really go back and catch up on the whole archive when I've got a free month: Dresden Codak, Eerie Cuties, Girl Genius, Menage a 3, Misfile, Order of the Stick, Questionable Content,

Ones I really should get around to reading: Twokinds, Darths And Droids


(Ones that aren't on the list: Bruno, The Abominable Charles Christopher, Kukuburi, Copper, Little Dee, Ozy and Millie, 1/0, Leftover Soup, and a few others that I can't think of right now.)
Edited Date: 2012-03-13 11:31 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2012-03-13 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] le-trombone.livejournal.com
Yeah, came across this while reading today's Darths and Droids.

I note that klaymore.info posted back on the 7th:
Comics Removed

Mar 07, 2012
As some users may have noticed, a number of comics have been removed in the last few days, at the request of the publisher. Our policy is to always honor these requests, since these publishers often make a living from these works - and we believe in supporting publishers for their efforts.


Ahh. Isn't that special.

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Date: 2012-03-13 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-v-lynch.livejournal.com
Supporting by ceasing to copy their content if they ask but not with actual money or anything.

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Date: 2012-03-13 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
If they ask, after they ask. Stabworthy!

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Date: 2012-03-13 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sucrelefey.livejournal.com
Opt out make it fair use! Ah the legacy of fandom culture.

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Date: 2012-03-13 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cacahuate.livejournal.com
I must have missed something. Why is this worse than any other pay or ad-supported RSS aggregator?

Not taking a pro-app position, just confused.

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Date: 2012-03-13 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Because it strips off the links and the creator's ads.

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Date: 2012-03-13 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sucrelefey.livejournal.com
Some IT people are defending it saying it is no different than what Google Reader does and this is the way the internet works and what you get for publishing online.

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Date: 2012-03-13 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Those people are wrong, since Google Reader doesn't strip off the things the creator included in the feed.

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Date: 2012-03-14 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cacahuate.livejournal.com
A professor at my college once printed off a bunch of my photos and displayed them in the hall without permission or attribution. I wasn’t too annoyed at first, since I just wanted credit, but when my friend mentioned it to him, he said, “Oh, they were on the Internet, so I assumed they were in the public domain.”

This was the head of the poli sci department.

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