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Date: 2012-04-24 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
What's that about/from?

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Date: 2012-04-24 01:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Those are the melted towers of Harrenhal, from A Game Of Thrones.

The answer to the question is "Dragonfire".

All the dragons are dead, of course. Have been for centuries. And yet, Harrenhal is still in ruins.

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Date: 2012-04-24 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
I had a hunch that might be it.

But I haven't seen any Game of Thrones. Mostly due to not having HBO, and not taking <a href="theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones>alternative courses of action</a>.

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Date: 2012-04-24 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
You should read the books. They're good, even if book 4 is split into two volumes half a decade apart - they're both out now!

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Date: 2012-04-24 01:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
I'm rather ashamed to admit that I've never read any GRRM.

And that I forgot the http://, and the closing quote, in that link to The Oatmeal.
Edited Date: 2012-04-24 01:34 am (UTC)

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Date: 2012-04-24 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Well, read the first book, watch the first book on DVD, decide if you want to read/watch the rest.

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Date: 2012-04-24 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
You'd recommend watching DVD1 before reading books 2+?

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Date: 2012-04-24 02:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Season 1 *is* book 1. Like, scene by scene except that Sean Bean and Peter Dinklage are probably more awesome than what you had in your head.

Season 2 involves a few changes from book 2.

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Date: 2012-04-24 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] publius1.livejournal.com
Ok, seriously, Ned's major scene is not at the end of Book 1, is it?

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Date: 2012-04-24 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silmaril.livejournal.com
No, it's about four-fifths of the way into the book. I think.

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Date: 2012-04-24 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Close to the end of it. Followed by several other scenes, which also followed it in the TV version, too.

If something happened in Season 1, it was from book 1. If something was from book 1, it either happened in season 1 or was cut. Season 2's got changes, but Season 1 was pretty much by the book, so to speak.

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Date: 2012-04-24 04:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cuddlycthulhu.livejournal.com
Also, don't have a favorite character. Quickest way for them to meet a horrible demise at some point. In book three GRRM introduces an incredibly awesome character only to have them die brutally before the book is even finished.

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Date: 2012-04-24 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inukshuk11.livejournal.com
does this happen to be someone Dornish?

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Date: 2012-04-24 02:39 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2012-04-24 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chrisrw109.livejournal.com
My favorite character is Sansa (someone please point out this comment to GRRM stat!)

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Date: 2012-04-24 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rev-ursa.livejournal.com
I like the way you think....

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Date: 2012-04-25 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evcelt.livejournal.com
Unless it's Tyrion. When I got GRRM to autograph my copy of AGOT lo these many years ago, he asked me who my favorite character was. I told him "Tyrion". "He's mine, too," he answered...

Of course, Tyrion has been through some insanely brutal abuse. But he's still alive!

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Date: 2012-04-24 10:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
It happens. :)

Can I recommend his short story "Sandkings"? Won both the Hugo and Nebula, available in these publications, and I am seriously considering picking up that ebook.

I liked his The Armageddon Rag, too, although not many people seem to have heard of it, and was fond of Fevre Dream. (Although the latter suffers slightly from the fact that, being able to read French, I always have a split-second of interpreting the title as Bean Dream.)
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Date: 2012-04-24 02:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jerril
Dude. Sandkings. *salutes* I read that a long time ago, didn't know it was GRRM. Deserves every award, and possibly a few extras.

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Date: 2012-04-24 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
There is a booksale at work today, proceeds to the Canadian Mental Health Association.

They had a stack of old OMNI magazines.

Including (I had to grin) the one with the first publication of "Sandkings". Joy.

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Date: 2012-04-24 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dscotton.livejournal.com
I actually thought Sandkings was one of the weaker stories in his Dreamsongs collection. Although my view was somewhat influenced by seeing it as the plot to an Outer Limits episode ages ago.

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Date: 2012-04-25 12:38 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] frith
The Outer Limits must be the source of my very vague recollection of The Sandkings.

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Date: 2012-04-24 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
Pursuant to the above! (My above, not yours.)

I have the magazine with the first ever publication of "Sandkings" sitting right here next to my keyboard. Own it as of fifteen minutes ago.

You want it?

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Date: 2012-04-24 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
That would be quite excellent. Absolutely! :)

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Date: 2012-04-25 01:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
Excellent! Post or PM me your address?

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Date: 2012-04-25 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
Done! :)

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Date: 2012-06-10 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
Thank you! It arrived a week or two ago, but took some effort to find this post again.

I still need to read the story, but I'm loving the style of, and ads in, a magazine that's almost as old as I am. :D

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Date: 2012-04-26 01:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kowh.livejournal.com
Having read the books first, I'm split on recommending season one or book one first.

I think I would have enjoyed the plot of the tv show more if I hadn't spoiled it with the books, but I think I'd also find it very distracting trying to follow the giant pile of characters without foreknowledge. There are just too many of them, too quickly.

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Date: 2012-04-24 01:50 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beable

That's what happened in the little known NCIS/Game of Thrones crossover.

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Date: 2012-04-24 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] argonel.livejournal.com
Perhaps dragonfire includes a lingering corrosive property that doesn't wash off. That would cause the stones to melt over a long period and prevent the building stones from being reused. Or perhaps GRRM hasn't thought through many of the implications of his timeline. Considering that he has trouble preventing the proliferation of viewpoint characters even with how fast he kills off characters I'd pin my hat on lack of authorial thought.

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Date: 2012-04-24 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Or, uh, "nobody has rebuilt Harrenhal in the last 200 years because it was an incredibly expensive white elephant and nobody wanted to pay for that. Nobody has scavenged it for parts because it's 'cursed.' And also owned by people who live in the perfectly-liveable ruins and will stab you, even if they can't afford to replace the giant towers"

Which is the explanation from the medium.

(Still doesn't excuse the 10KY histories of the Houses, but Harrenhal, at least, is reasonably covered.)

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Date: 2012-04-24 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cuddlycthulhu.livejournal.com
When we saw Harrenhal my wife and I both sat up and went, "oooooooh"

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Date: 2012-04-24 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inukshuk11.livejournal.com
Yeah Harrenhal was appropriately beautiful and horrifying. :D

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Date: 2012-04-24 02:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] publius1.livejournal.com
It is shocking how close this came to depicting what I thought Harrenhal would look like.
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Date: 2012-04-24 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] senorcameltoe.livejournal.com
I know it isn't exactly the effect you're looking for, but the Ancient Romans burned marble and limestone all the time to create lime for cement.
http://www.historyforkids.org/learn/architecture/concrete.htm

There's also some nasty stuff that happens to it at super high temperatures.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2007/08/are_ancient_ruins_flammable.html

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Date: 2012-04-24 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kafziel.livejournal.com
Here I thought this was something to do with Skyrim.

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