Yes, my gf and I. Personally I have no intention of reading the books, hoping that HBO can deal with most of the structural issues that I've seen people talking about. BTW, we are currently re-watching S1 on BR, and will watch S2 at our preferred rate of 2-3 a week (starting soon).
I only read the first book and barely remember it. I know the circumstances of the deaths of two characters, but I don't really know when that's going to happen.
It's mostly "Oh hey, can you summarise the status of various Starks and Lannisters, as you see it, as of the end of last night's episode?" kind of question. Most of my questions involve book-spoilers - things I know/expect to be true about current and future events. So!
Can you summarise, from your perspective, the current statusen of the various Starks and Lannisters?
My partner hasn't read any of the books, and I've only read the first one and that years ago. He's really enjoying the show, enough that we picked up the first few books on audiobile (but never have time to listen to them). I'm pretty happy with it too, even when I feel like they've gotten things wrong compared to my vision.
I started watching, could not get past the constant rapiness, and stopped after a few episodes, so I cannot help with questions. :(
(I also had other issues with it but since I've just removed myself from the group of people who meet your needs for this, this is probably not the time/place to air them.)
There's a lot of changes from the book that are.... kind of jarringly wow issuey. And this is from a series that was accurately summarised as "The Knights Who Say Fuck" *and* was kinda rapey to begin with. It's like reading Guy Gavriel Kay - you never get the impression that he's ENDORSING the acts he's depicting - he's not Tom Kratman or Jerry Jenkins or Orson Scott Card - but that doesn't mean they're always fun to read. And the HBO show leans towards saying "this should be fun to watch" when it's really not, it's horrifying and I would feel better if they presented it as horror.
A reverse question: my wife has been watching the TV series, while I've only read the books, and she commented on the number of times that random bare-breasted women walk into shot for no reason each episode. I think the phrase was "even whores get to wear clothes".
Does this seem jarring to people who haven't read the books (which, as I recall, dimly, don't necessarily demand that amount of boobage), or do people just shrug and say "you've got to have wall-to-wall naked whores in mediaeval times" or "meh, it's an HBO show"?
I used to find it really distracting in a "didn't we just see someone's tits? Did we need more?" sort of way. Now I feel like it's the leery great-uncle who pervs on waitresses while your family's out to dinner; it's creepy, but you've put up with it for so long that you can't summon much of a reaction beyond rolling your eyes.
I read book one before watching series one. It seemed to match up ok. Now I'm watching series two while desperately trying to catch up with book two and there's a lot of stuff that is either missing or the tv series has made the fuck up. A lot of it is out of order, and, unless I haven't got to a bit where it happens, Theon totally didn't grope his sister when he got off the boat.
Season 2 has a ton of changes from Book 2 - characters consolidated, events skipped, etc. And yes, Theon got all gropey with his sister without recognising her when he went home, although she's no longer "Asha" because it was decided that was too easy to confuse with Osha.
Caught up. Started on the first few chapters of the first book, mostly since I tend to lose track of characters and who's murdering who, but haven't gotten further
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Date: 2012-05-15 01:39 am (UTC)Personally I have no intention of reading the books, hoping that HBO can deal with most of the structural issues that I've seen people talking about.
BTW, we are currently re-watching S1 on BR, and will watch S2 at our preferred rate of 2-3 a week (starting soon).
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Date: 2012-05-15 02:13 am (UTC)Can you summarise, from your perspective, the current statusen of the various Starks and Lannisters?
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Date: 2012-05-15 02:09 am (UTC)(I also had other issues with it but since I've just removed myself from the group of people who meet your needs for this, this is probably not the time/place to air them.)
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Date: 2012-05-15 02:22 am (UTC)There's a lot of changes from the book that are.... kind of jarringly wow issuey. And this is from a series that was accurately summarised as "The Knights Who Say Fuck" *and* was kinda rapey to begin with. It's like reading Guy Gavriel Kay - you never get the impression that he's ENDORSING the acts he's depicting - he's not Tom Kratman or Jerry Jenkins or Orson Scott Card - but that doesn't mean they're always fun to read. And the HBO show leans towards saying "this should be fun to watch" when it's really not, it's horrifying and I would feel better if they presented it as horror.
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Date: 2012-05-15 04:39 am (UTC)Does this seem jarring to people who haven't read the books (which, as I recall, dimly, don't necessarily demand that amount of boobage), or do people just shrug and say "you've got to have wall-to-wall naked whores in mediaeval times" or "meh, it's an HBO show"?
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Date: 2012-05-17 12:24 pm (UTC)Whereas people who haven't read the books are all "HBO, dude!"
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