I don't get mail from g+. I don't have much use for it, of course, since it's horribly annoying to read - things keep moving! How can it be a useful way of keeping track of things if they keep shifting around and you might need to re-read a ton of old stuff in order to find anything new, and you have NO WAY of knowing when you've reached the end of all the new-since-last-visit content? It seems DELIBERATELY DESIGNED to make it impossible to use to, y'know, track what people are doing - but then, it's not SUPPOSED to be useful, it's supposed to be "facebook-like".
Yeah, Facebook's default item sorting is by "importance" or something like that, and there's an option (that isn't always there) to sort chronologically.
If you decide to ignore all X reasons, I am sure someone could help you find a very pointy stick. Facebook, I feel, might benefit greatly from the vigorous applications of pointy sticks.
ETA: speaking of things which could be improved, I see LJ's new default display is still choking and dying on the concept of icons with more than one keyword...
They changed emails without asking. They change the page layout without asking. They record everything you do when at the site and use those data to display specific advertisements. They delete profiles without asking. They delete contact data from your phone without asking. They don't remove profile data, when asked. They change privacy settings without asking. They change their privacy policy without asking.
do people really think that *anything* is beyond them now?
Entertainingly, this does not stop the roughly weekly emails from Facebook soliciting me to open an account because some unspecified person tried to interact with "me" in some unspecified way.
Except the journalist who wrote that is an idiot and it's not what happens, of course.
Nothing gets posted to your wall, at all. What does happen is when your friends are reading their reading/friends/homepage (or whatever it's called there), psts from pages you've liked might also show up, listed under "x, Y, Z of your friends like this page".
It's a stupid feature, but it's not posting anything to your wall or onto your timeline, just inserting stuff on other peoples reading pages. I would probably be slightly annoyed by it, but the way that journa has misrepresented it completely makes me more inclined to say "you're wrong" than anything else.
Is your "wall" not the set of posts that other people see when viewing you via the "Friends page"-equivalent?
Regardless: It's my understanding that, when looking at "things people I follow have posted/liked/whatever", this inserts articles from previous likes. Even if you didn't "like" that specific article. And it does it in a way that implies strongly that *you just chose to share this specific article*, when you didn't.
Your "wall" is your profile/"blog", that others can comment on and post to, but you have control over, it's what you look at first when you go to someone's profile. It's being replaced by "timeline" which is a more userfriendly but slightly more exposing setup-but everything it reveals can be controlled and it was all available to someone that wanted to know it already.
The "homepage" or "newsfeed" or something is what this posts to, and it doesn't do it in a way that implies you chose that article, it's fairly clear in the way it's labelled that it's a post by the page and that you like that page, it's even clearer when it's several people listed under like this page-there are screenshots on the linked article-look at the second pic "blur and blur like ForAmerica [gap/newline] recent post".
It looks completely different to normal posts, isn't marked up as "x shared a link" which is how posts you've proactively posted appear, etc.
It's intrusive in some respects, but I can see the utility, it's not abusive, and the journalist above is either deliberately misleading with the writeup or a complete moron.
I know there are lots of idiots using Facebook, and some of them will think it's "x friend posted this", but that's not how it's designed to appear, the difference in appearance and wording is obvious to me and should be to most users.
The implication in the article is that the posts are being added to your profile, as if it's posting directly by you and showing up on your profile when people look at it, it's not at all.
This feature has been bugging me for a while, if you ever find someone with knowledge on how to fix it (aside from unliking every page) please let me know. I haven't found any privacy option that disallows this behavior.
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Date: 2012-07-14 01:28 pm (UTC)And Google+ are spammers.
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Date: 2012-07-14 02:14 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2012-07-15 07:32 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2012-07-14 02:38 pm (UTC)ETA: speaking of things which could be improved, I see LJ's new default display is still choking and dying on the concept of icons with more than one keyword...
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Date: 2012-07-15 07:39 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2012-07-15 08:42 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2012-07-14 02:48 pm (UTC)(And technically it isn't as you, it's just strongly associated with you. As if that's acceptable.)
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Date: 2012-07-14 11:06 pm (UTC)They change the page layout without asking.
They record everything you do when at the site and use those data to display specific advertisements.
They delete profiles without asking.
They delete contact data from your phone without asking.
They don't remove profile data, when asked.
They change privacy settings without asking.
They change their privacy policy without asking.
do people really think that *anything* is beyond them now?
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Date: 2012-07-15 04:12 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2012-07-15 06:29 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2012-07-15 07:46 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2012-07-14 04:20 pm (UTC)Nothing gets posted to your wall, at all. What does happen is when your friends are reading their reading/friends/homepage (or whatever it's called there), psts from pages you've liked might also show up, listed under "x, Y, Z of your friends like this page".
It's a stupid feature, but it's not posting anything to your wall or onto your timeline, just inserting stuff on other peoples reading pages. I would probably be slightly annoyed by it, but the way that journa has misrepresented it completely makes me more inclined to say "you're wrong" than anything else.
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Date: 2012-07-14 07:53 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2012-07-14 11:04 pm (UTC)Is your "wall" not the set of posts that other people see when viewing you via the "Friends page"-equivalent?
Regardless: It's my understanding that, when looking at "things people I follow have posted/liked/whatever", this inserts articles from previous likes. Even if you didn't "like" that specific article. And it does it in a way that implies strongly that *you just chose to share this specific article*, when you didn't.
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Date: 2012-07-14 11:18 pm (UTC)Your "wall" is your profile/"blog", that others can comment on and post to, but you have control over, it's what you look at first when you go to someone's profile. It's being replaced by "timeline" which is a more userfriendly but slightly more exposing setup-but everything it reveals can be controlled and it was all available to someone that wanted to know it already.
The "homepage" or "newsfeed" or something is what this posts to, and it doesn't do it in a way that implies you chose that article, it's fairly clear in the way it's labelled that it's a post by the page and that you like that page, it's even clearer when it's several people listed under like this page-there are screenshots on the linked article-look at the second pic "blur and blur like ForAmerica [gap/newline] recent post".
It looks completely different to normal posts, isn't marked up as "x shared a link" which is how posts you've proactively posted appear, etc.
It's intrusive in some respects, but I can see the utility, it's not abusive, and the journalist above is either deliberately misleading with the writeup or a complete moron.
I know there are lots of idiots using Facebook, and some of them will think it's "x friend posted this", but that's not how it's designed to appear, the difference in appearance and wording is obvious to me and should be to most users.
The implication in the article is that the posts are being added to your profile, as if it's posting directly by you and showing up on your profile when people look at it, it's not at all.
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Date: 2012-07-16 07:23 pm (UTC)