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Gay man attends lying hate group's seminar, discovers lies, hatred.

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Republican delegates chant "USA" to drown out latina speaker. Their official story is that they weren't shouting her down, they were just completely ignoring her. Because she was female and not white, and was thus irrelevant compared to their complaints about an unrelated problem that just HAPPENED to involve them shouting her down.

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Republicans ejected from convention for throwing peanuts at black CNN camera operator, yelling "this is how we feed animals".

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Date: 2012-08-29 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Oh no, Republicans Acting Like Republicans is totally newsworthy. It was the "man attends conference for hate group, discovers hate speech and advocation of violence" that's a non-story. Yes, OF COURSE the NOM conference was about religious extermination of a marginalised group, it's NOM. And yes, OF COURSE they were lying about the content, they're a Christian group. Lying is what they do most, and best.

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Date: 2012-08-29 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
Oh, I entirely agree that it's newsworthy -- but the RNC and CNN apparently are less sure. :]

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Date: 2012-08-29 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] endotoxin.livejournal.com
I'm definitely looking forward to seeing a repeat of this behavior at the DNC. OH WAIT I GUESS I WON'T!

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Date: 2012-08-29 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lederhosen.livejournal.com
Meanwhile, one of the pages from the 2008 RNC is in the news again (http://gawker.com/5938288/leader-of-army-plot-to-assassinate-obama-apparently-attended-the-2008-republican-convention-as-a-page).

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Date: 2012-08-30 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dantheserene.livejournal.com
The impressive thing about the Harper's story is the complete cluelessness of the author. The Ron Paul Revolution was one of the biggest stories leading up to and into the convention, and she was there when many delegates crossed into open rebellion over convention leaders' shenanigans, and she thought it was about the speaker after the committee everyone was angry with. It had nothing to do with the speaker. She shouldn't have been sent to the podium under those conditions.

Never underestimate the power of narrative to make people see what they want or expect to see.

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Date: 2012-08-30 01:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ben-raccoon.livejournal.com
Yeah, I saw this on Fark last night. Turns out that instead of looking like a group of bigoted dumbasses, they just make themselves look like childish dumbasses. Seriously, what sort of argument is "USA, USA, USA"?

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Date: 2012-08-30 01:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dantheserene.livejournal.com
I believe that was the pro RNC/Mitt folk trying to drown out the Paulites yelling "Point of Order" since the committee was violating its own rules in its zeal to silence the Paulites.

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Date: 2012-08-30 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Calling a small group of economic illiterates backing a Klansman in the Republican party a "big story" is kind of, well, not true. That happens all the time.

And, in the process, at a REPUBLICAN convention, supporters of a failed white supremacist candidate shouted down a latina speaker from Puerto Rico by screaming "USA USA USA". which is, even if it wasn't aimed at her, a very telling kind of failure.

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Date: 2012-08-30 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Image is 404, redirects to content thieves funnyjunk.com

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Date: 2012-08-30 11:07 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] fridgepunk.livejournal.com
Actually you've got it wrong in a way that misses out the far bigger problem the weird anti-puerto rican sentiment is hiding: The white supremicist supporters were chanting "point of order" as part of an opposition to an undemocratic seizure of power within the republican party to suppress opposition from grass root or state level activists,

The (presumably well paid) people supporting the undemocratic cooption of the state level republican party's powers to choose their own candidates by the national party's main organisers and presidential candidates (essentially making Romney into a Sun-King-esque, "l'partie est moi", figure), were chanting "USA! USA!" at a puerto rican lady.

Romney 2012: It's like being able to find nothing but forks when all you need is a spoon

Bear in mind that any right thinking person outside of the republican party should technically approve of what Romney's camp is doing, because in the long run it will demolish the ability of the republican party to field candidates at any level of government in liberal states.. which is most states by the republican stnadards of "liberal", on the other hand the republican party becoming less democratic means that their leadership will get even crazier and prone to despotic tendencies as they start to lose the state level battles they've been using to justify themselves.

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Date: 2012-08-30 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dantheserene.livejournal.com
While you excel in name-calling of anything you don't like or don't understand, that approach can make it difficult to grasp a given situation.
None of the chants had anything to do with the speaker. The delegates were yelling at the committee and each other. The situation with the Paulites, particularly the Maine contingent, and the committee at that exact moment has been well documented.
The yelling was not directed at the speaker (the “USA” chant was meant to drown out the “Point of Order” chants of the Paulites).
An ill-informed “reporter” with a strong belief in his narrative saw what he expected/hoped to see, and reported it to like-minded individuals anxious for those reports to be true. A stadium full of people did not have a meltdown and go full on racist against a committee spokeswoman discussing a point of order no one cared about.
I have no information regarding the reported nut throwing incident. Any group will have outliers who self-identify with the group, even if they do not conform to that group’s standards. Many people have a tendency to seek out these people because they reinforce the already held beliefs of the observer. Never underestimate the power of the narrative to shape observation.

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Date: 2012-08-31 09:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whisperkit.livejournal.com
I like this idea that racist fucks have to determinedly put on their Racist Hat before being racist, putting aside all other issues, which can never intersect with racism.

Do they have to declare Racism as one of their daily spells, I wonder?

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