Vaccines do indeed prevent illness, as evidenced by the lack of many diseases that were once endemic, so outright false
I suppose it's technically true, in that some vaccines risk triggering a low-grade and non-infectious case of the disease, but the incidence is vanishingly smaller than the incidence of going without* and the symptoms are always less severe.
Some vaccines are a hazard to some children. Overall, though, vaccines are safer than baths.
There is zero credible evidence of collusion to disguise the risks of immunisation from the public.
Aaaand the whopper; in order to be certified every vaccine has to undergo multiple safety studies.
As for the list of "vaccine-related illnesses", though seizure and death are two extremely rare adverse reactions the rest are known to be entirely unrelated to vaccination. The "shaken baby" one is egregious, given that it was introduced by a quack hired to get a child abuser some thin tissue of a defense.
-- Steve saw the numbers once; the most dangerous phase of getting a child vaccinated is the drive to-and-from the clinic.
* That is, if you assume everyone is going without; herd immunity will cover some folks without the risk of side effects. The problem there is if you have too many people unvaxed then herd immunity collapses and then everyone's in jeopardy again, so "free riders" should be restricted to those who are at abnormally-high risk of complications.
I understand most of the "vaccine made me sick" cases are actually "vaccine activated my immune system, giving me generic activated immune system symptoms like mild fever and general malaise".
Unfortunately it's really not made clear to most people that that sort of generic "I feel sick" feeling is so generic because it's your body doing it, not "bacteria eat my brain so I have a fever" or something.
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Now I sort of want to interview 100 random people and see what they think the mechanism for "infection -> fever" is. For amusement value.
The little green bugs crawl in your ears and noses when you are sleeping, and then breed and move all over the body, flipping tiny switches that control your thermostat and water supply. When your heater turns up inside, and your water supply goes down, you get a fever by itself. When the water supply and heater go up, you get a fever with sniffles. When the heater turns down in one area, but up in another, you get the chills!
There was a person who took grave offense when I shreaded the list of side effects this has. Basically calling me everything but a decent woman, because I was so insensitive as to imply that her child might have been autistic regardless. So many people fail at the idea of X happened, then Y happened, rather then X happened so Y must obviously have happened because of X. I mean, I know darn good and well that my daughters ADHD and depression are unrelated to her medical care. It has been a genetic trait in our family at LEAST as far back as my grandparents. Before the automatic immunizations of everyone for all the things.
This appears to have originated with this paper: http://www.ecomed.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/3-tomljenovic.pdf I've only glanced through it, but most of it appears to consist of cherrypicked quotes from British vaccine safety meetings held 30 or more years go. And the paper itself was published in March 2011 - you'd have thought it would have got a little more attention if any of the cover-up claims are actually true.
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Date: 2012-12-05 07:06 pm (UTC)As for the list of "vaccine-related illnesses", though seizure and death are two extremely rare adverse reactions the rest are known to be entirely unrelated to vaccination. The "shaken baby" one is egregious, given that it was introduced by a quack hired to get a child abuser some thin tissue of a defense.
-- Steve saw the numbers once; the most dangerous phase of getting a child vaccinated is the drive to-and-from the clinic.
* That is, if you assume everyone is going without; herd immunity will cover some folks without the risk of side effects. The problem there is if you have too many people unvaxed then herd immunity collapses and then everyone's in jeopardy again, so "free riders" should be restricted to those who are at abnormally-high risk of complications.
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Date: 2012-12-05 09:31 pm (UTC)Unfortunately it's really not made clear to most people that that sort of generic "I feel sick" feeling is so generic because it's your body doing it, not "bacteria eat my brain so I have a fever" or something.
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Now I sort of want to interview 100 random people and see what they think the mechanism for "infection -> fever" is. For amusement value.
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Date: 2012-12-06 06:06 pm (UTC)And the paper itself was published in March 2011 - you'd have thought it would have got a little more attention if any of the cover-up claims are actually true.
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Date: 2012-12-07 08:09 pm (UTC)immunitymentality, you.