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Date: 2013-09-03 03:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kafziel.livejournal.com
Well, .14 of .29 is .0402, which is about 4x the highest estimated rate of actual gluten intolerance. Fuckin' hipster food trend people.

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Date: 2013-09-03 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
The upside of GF as a fad as that it makes grocery shopping much easier for my celiac-diagnosed wife. :)

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Date: 2013-09-03 04:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
Mine, too. Damn, the first time she tried a GF cookie, she cried. It was that bad.

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Date: 2013-09-03 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
But now there's Glutino, and they make lovely, lovely cookies. :)

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Date: 2013-09-03 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jsbowden.livejournal.com
Yep. My kid is celiac, and the whole gluten free fad has made feeding him a LOT easier. The gluten free stuff is easy to find and the food itself has gotten much better.

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Date: 2013-09-03 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
I'm just waiting for someone to develop a good soft, chewy, non-dry, non-crumbly bread/roll/pizza crust... there are acceptable recipes and mixes out there, but none compare to basic gluten-y bread.

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Date: 2013-09-04 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Dumb question: Has anyone made a half-decent gluten-free English Muffin? Because those actually make really good mini-pizza bottoms, and are different enough from "bread" that maybe the gluten-free ones might work.

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Date: 2013-09-04 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
Good question. There are bakers/distributors of premade, frozen bread products -- Udi's and Rudi's, for example -- that almost certainly do, but I've only tried their sliced bread and bagels.

(My wife has largely lost interest in trying further GF bread products -- and pasta, for that matter -- so we mostly just go without in this house.)

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Date: 2013-09-04 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] franklanguage.livejournal.com
Where are you located? Because in my neighborhood alone there are are at least three GF bakeries within a 10-block radius of me, and a pizzeria, palà (http://www.yelp.com/biz/pala-new-york?start=240) which has more-than-acceptable crust.

You might want to book a flight to NYC, or at least see how many of these places will air-freight the goods.

(One bakery, babycakes (http://www.babycakesnyc.com/), is strictly gluten-free and now has locations at both Disneylands! And they have a cookbook! (http://www.amazon.com/dp/0307408833?tag=bany-20&camp=14573&creative=327641&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=0307408833&adid=1SNP41VCHGPGA2W7V9QC&))

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Date: 2013-09-04 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
Ha, city-dweller. I'm 15 minutes from the nearest Food Lion, 45 from Wegmans, and an hour from Trader Joes. I'm sure there are some bakeries here and there, but I'd certainly be driving 45+ minutes (Fredericksburg, VA) or an hour (Richmond, VA) to find any of them. :)

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Date: 2013-09-04 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
English muffins are especially tricky. We've found one or two that are *meh*, which is an improvement. Might be Udi's, but The Wife™ is unsure.

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Date: 2013-09-03 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
That's spectacularly bad infographicking and terrible stats presentation. Setting aside the content of the photos, the best I can figure is that *of* the 29%, the top three offenders were Dairy (or maybe Eggs) at 38%, Shellfish at 19%, and Gluten (or maybe just Wheat) at 14%, with the remaining 29%* squeezed out of the pie chart in unacceptable fashion.

* Huh.

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Date: 2013-09-03 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
The only problem is that they're missing an 'other' pie wedge to fill in where the top three don't cover.

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Date: 2013-09-03 03:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
That's the only one?

You don't, for example, feel that eggs are an inappropriate choice of picture to go with the caption "Dairy"?

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Date: 2013-09-03 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
True, I was thinking of the dietary pyramid 'dairy', not allergy dairy.

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Date: 2013-09-03 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
That was my first thought. More have problems with milk than eggs, IIRC.

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Date: 2013-09-03 11:06 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] autopope.livejournal.com
You try telling that to my wife, who is (a) vegetarian and (b) has problems with milk AND eggs (eggs are worse), for values of diarrhoea/vomiting bad. (Not a full-blown allergy, just an inability to digest them.)

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Date: 2013-09-04 02:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
Yeah, my only experience was my step-brother's cow milk allergy. More seem okay with eggy-wegs, at least around here.

My wife's celiac, though, that was years of hell before it was diagnosed.

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Date: 2013-09-04 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] franklanguage.livejournal.com
Fact is, though: eggs don't come from cows. Never have, never will.

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Date: 2013-09-04 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
True dat. In the old days, though, eggs often came from dairies. Chickens and other bug peckers were common sights on farms with lots of cows. Organic pesticide, with a marketable by-product!

Joel Salatin of Polyface farms claims he makes $50K/year on his pest control system from eggs alone.

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Date: 2013-09-03 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
If they're doing a pie chart, shouldn't it add up to 100%? Pie charts usually do. Seeing 38% take up over 50% of the pie is bothersome.

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Date: 2013-09-04 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
I think what they did was take the top three contributors and proportionally distributed them onto a pie chart.. which is a strange abuse of the data, and borks the numbers. Had they properly distributed and left the remaining 29% as "Other", it would've been fine.

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Date: 2013-09-03 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crazy-alexy.livejournal.com
Well, this is definitely from a reputable source!

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Date: 2013-09-03 04:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nancylebov.livejournal.com
Aside from anything else that's been listed, lactose intolerance isn't an allergy.

It's possible to be allergic to casein, but that's pretty rare, so it wouldn't be that section of the pie chart.

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Date: 2013-09-04 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] franklanguage.livejournal.com
Actually, I've always had a problem with casein, not lactose.

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Date: 2013-09-03 05:25 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
... fuck you, i'm going to bed.

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Date: 2013-09-03 06:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tyoko.livejournal.com

Some people have more than one allergy, and pie chart of a population makes no sense when a datum can fall in more than one category.

Do I get a prize? :D

Ouch

Date: 2013-09-03 11:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] disgruntledgrrl.livejournal.com
The maths - they hurt.

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Date: 2013-09-03 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thornae.livejournal.com
I think in this case it might be easier to count the things they got right:

1) They have relevant pictures for gluten and shellfish allergies
2) They spelled "Dairy" correctly
3) They didn't use Comic Sans
4) .... No, I'm out.

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Date: 2013-09-03 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenanthai.livejournal.com
Eggs are "dairy"?

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Date: 2013-09-04 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
I think it dates back to the old food pyramid and the lobbying various industries did to get included as staples. Ah, money. What can't you buy?

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Date: 2013-09-04 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-dense.livejournal.com
oh for cryin' out loud.

also: i was once accused of sending a take-out order customer into anaphylactic shock from gluten. FROM GLUTEN. as in, i fed her gluten (i hadn't) and made her swell and gasp. i can't even. her order also included mushrooms and shellfish. hm.

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Date: 2013-09-05 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spritelord.livejournal.com
.... My only guess is that Canadians don't really have households, just people taking refuge in the same pile of snow?

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Date: 2013-09-06 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silmaril.livejournal.com
Go right ahead and admit you posted this just to make me and my ilk twitch interminably.

(The numbers... they hurt...)

I'm twitchy about eggs being called dairy, too, but that was another war, fought on another continent, etc. etc. Many marine biologists are even now crying into their clam juice spiked with vodka. It's sad that the most accurate bit is maybe using wheat to illustrate gluten.

(But the numbers... the slice sizes... the numbers hurt...)

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Date: 2013-09-07 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] resonant.livejournal.com
Cows have hair, and produce milk. Mammals have hair, and produce milk. Coconuts are hairy and have milk. Therefore coconuts are mammals, and coconut milk counts as dairy. Coconuts are round and hard, with a liquid inside. Eggs are round and hard, with a liquid inside. Therefore eggs count as dairy.

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Date: 2013-09-28 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sheilagh.livejournal.com
Good gods! your logic is UNSTOPPABLE. The missing link ... coconuts... who knew... ugh... the brilliance of it...

*stunned*

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