Sadly, Squirrel Girl is a Mutant, and Mutants are part of the rights package that Fox own and do not want to let lapse back to Marvel. Marvel would probably be all over having Squirrel Girl show up in one of the TV shows.
The specific character listing isn't comprehensive tho, and the licence ascriptions are a bit convoluted. But Squirrel Girl is described as a Mutant, and her most recent headline title was with Deadpool, which seems to drop her into the Fox licence. Arguably, the Quicksilver/Scarlet Witch loophole cold be applied, if Marvel promoted her to being an actual member of the Avengers not just their child-care.
Guardians is.... eclectic. More than a little absurd. And yes, it involves a heavily armed raccoon, Groot, and Dave The Destroyer, out to save the universe from itself.
I am very hopeful towards Chris Pratt as Star-Lord. Plus Lee Pace, Bradley Cooper, Zoe Saldana and Vin Diesel. A little bit sad at no space lesbians...
I think knowing that the racoon will be voiced by Bradley Cooper and the tree will be voiced by Vin Diesel didn't help either. I mean seriously, what???
...I Googled and hit IMDB and I still have no idea who Bradley Cooper is! Some guy. Who's been in things. Okay, apparently they didn't hire him for name recognition so perhaps they hired him for talent.
I have seen Vin Diesel movies. Mostly not very good, but I can't say there's anything about his voice that screams "I could never ever sound like an intelligent tree", so okay.
I guess if you have much better auditory memory than me and thus draw strong associations between the actor's voice and the character they previously played it might detract from the movie for you? In which case I sympathize. It would kind of suck to be interrupted by the memory of unrelated movies while watching Groot and Rocket Raccoon.
(I share your perplexity as to how anyone could say "I'm certainly going to see the movie, now" with a straight face. That would imply that they'd heard about the movie and yet this .gif was the tipping point which led them to make a decision.)
...I Googled and hit IMDB and I still have no idea who Bradley Cooper is! Some guy. Who's been in things. Okay, apparently they didn't hire him for name recognition so perhaps they hired him for talent.
He's starred in Oscar-nominated movies the past two years (Silver Linings Playbook and American Hustle) and before that he was in a sci-fi movie with Robert DeNiro (Limitless). People recognise the name and suddenly there's been some suggestion that he might actually be a good actor. I've never thought he was that bad since I originally saw him in the series "Alias" (he plays the friend who is also an investigative journalist).
The thing is he's the one in that gif firing a gun wildly, but I cannot imagine his voice suggesting 'badass' y'know?
Whereas Vin Diesel, while a little on the bland side acting-wise, I CAN imagine SOUNDING like a badass. Except he's the one playing the tree that can (apparently) only say three words? Weird!
"Holy shit, they gave the good actor the role with all the lines! And gave the gravelly-voiced non-actor the role that only has three words! That's fucked up!" said nobody ever.
I guess I shouldn't be too surprised that this all looks and sounds utterly ridiculous. All the Marvel Studios movies have been a combination of 'action' and 'comedy' and naturally this is no different. This would only be utterly appalling if they tried to play it straight, because I'm either going to be laughing with this or laughing at it. There's no other option.
But I'm having a tough time fitting those actors' voices to either of those characters. Why does a walking tree need Vin Diesel's voice anyway?
Why does a walking tree need Vin Diesel's voice anyway?
Because he is Groot?
(I suspect: Vin Diesel is a massive nerdy fanboy who volunteered to play Groot, and if he hadn't volunteered he wouldn't have been cast. Because Vin Diesel is a massive nerdy fanboy. This is the same reason Samuel Jackson was in the Star Wars prequels: He called them up and said PLEASE LET ME IN I WILL PLAY ANYONE)
And, really, Rocket Raccoon is not supposed to sound like a badass. He's supposed to sound like the competent heavily-armed straight man/exposition dude who is also a raccoon,
/me mostly wants to see an Annihilators movie. That would be HILARIOUS.
Also: I shouldn't be too surprised that this all looks and sounds utterly ridiculous
"It's not jumping the shark if you never come back down!"
More seriously: Yeah, Guardians is nuts. Has always been, all the way back to The Punishers and Marvel Boy's "DON'T GO INTO SPAAAAAAAACE" incident. That's the point.
And I am ecstatic to see a movie accepting absurd comics and trying to film them without trying to make them into fake-real crap comics.
This movie might still suck! But it won't suck because it impossibly demands that we take Batman seriously.
Possibly it's a character interpretation thing? I mean, I would never characterize Rocket Raccoon as a badass (a term which due to how I've seen it used always carries connotations of being horribly thudly).
Scrappy ordinance-heavy little tactician, sure. But bad-ass? Eh. I live in the hope that he will be more interesting and wacky.
I saw this .gif yesterday, with the following comment attached: DC: "Wonder Woman would be a difficult character to portray on the big screen." Marvel: "Our next film has a Tree-Man and a Raccoon!"
Sadly, I'm a bit torn between the apparent awesome this film will bring forth vs. the fact that the guy directing it is a horrible person.
The usual fare, "raging misogynist". Sure, he "apologized". But lots of people missed that there was even more egregious blog post that really showed his colors, because what landed him into hot mess was treatment of fictional characters (albeit one laden with real prejudice) and if one had just browsed some pages back on his blog, they would have found out how he treats REAL women.
I know the feeling. When you are into comics like I am, it is hard to avoid... certain kind of people. Everything becomes a game of "do I want to give my munny and support for this". I did e-mail Marvel about all those links I discovered, when the original firestorm was lit (and I was just a bit ahead of all hoopla there as well, so I guess maybe someone actually read it rather than filed it into "James Gunn is a raging misogynist and homophobe" pile).
On the other hand, since I'm completely unable to go to movies (due to not being able to deal with stress of being in a loud dark room with strangers), I will wait for a DVD. And then buy it second-hand (did that to new Batman movies), or from the deep-discount bin (like I did with Ghost Rider 2).
Totally understand, and very sensible. (It's gaming and SF/F/H fiction for me, and I swear every month there are more people telling they think large swathes of earth's population aren't actually, you know, people. Which is at least a time-saver?)
Coincidentally, I just spent couple of days reading blogs etc regarding the most recent SFWA-related going-ons and doing some refresher from the last summer as well, just to checklist who have stuck to the past and haven't moved onward with the times.
And well, RPGs and miniatures... I could tell stories, I really could.
Fortunately our native population is pretty good about RPGs/sci-fi/comics etc, women have always been a major part of that scene over here (from attending 'cons to arranging them to producing content). It is the international "community" which is mostly giving me grief.
I'm really hoping that Guardians will be good. I'm really hoping it won't have any outrageously sexist shit in it.
And then I just look at what that 'orrible man wrote to his blog and remember he's directing it and he's also one of the script writers. And remember that he's the man behind Lollipop Chainsaw. Yeah, I'm torn.
Yep. Caught the lead-up to that on Radish Reviews, and saw the article on Twitter. (Mildly amused that in the first version of the article, his name was spelt "Fedora" in the second-last paragraph. And sad that fedoras are so often associated with creeps, because they are nifty hatwear.)
There are some very decent people involved in the SFWA, but they don't tend to make as much news, which is sad.
I'm going to be optimist, though -- this being dug out and dogpiled and savaged by lots of people means that change is happening, albeit slowly. Let's face it, in the past this wouldn't have been spoken much at all, besides in invisible networks where the word on the street is that "don't be alone with so and so in a same room" or "watch their hands".
ooo very nice. I became aware of this movie after the tease at the end of Thor. And then I was dragged into the marvel heroes mmo, and my first random character was Rocket Raccoon. Very much looking forward to the movie now.
And if you have time, check out marvel heroes. I have no idea how they got the mmo license for ALL THE THINGS but it's kind of awesome to be able to play as any of the avengers or x men or other characters (the punisher/spiderman/ghost rider). and in theory all the characters are free with enough game play, though you can buy them/costumes/stash space to speed things up & support the game. So far it hasn't seemed pay to win, which is essential for me.
Licensing: Movie licenses are very different from game licenses. So it's not surprising that Hasbro/Marvel was able to resell all the characters for games, even if they can't get back the mutants or Fantastic Four for movies.
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Date: 2014-02-15 12:47 am (UTC)Of course, it'd be hard to make a coherent X-movie without the characters who ARE licensed.
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Date: 2014-02-15 02:10 am (UTC)To sum up, Comics Are Weird.
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Date: 2014-02-14 11:24 pm (UTC)(I'm waiting for inevitable answer of 'yes', but I'm seriously flabbergasted as to how anyone could say that with a straight face....)
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Date: 2014-02-14 11:48 pm (UTC)Yes.
Guardians is.... eclectic. More than a little absurd. And yes, it involves a heavily armed raccoon, Groot, and Dave The Destroyer, out to save the universe from itself.
What's not to love?
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Date: 2014-02-16 04:11 am (UTC)...I Googled and hit IMDB and I still have no idea who Bradley Cooper is! Some guy. Who's been in things. Okay, apparently they didn't hire him for name recognition so perhaps they hired him for talent.
I have seen Vin Diesel movies. Mostly not very good, but I can't say there's anything about his voice that screams "I could never ever sound like an intelligent tree", so okay.
I guess if you have much better auditory memory than me and thus draw strong associations between the actor's voice and the character they previously played it might detract from the movie for you? In which case I sympathize. It would kind of suck to be interrupted by the memory of unrelated movies while watching Groot and Rocket Raccoon.
(I share your perplexity as to how anyone could say "I'm certainly going to see the movie, now" with a straight face. That would imply that they'd heard about the movie and yet this .gif was the tipping point which led them to make a decision.)
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Date: 2014-02-16 11:39 am (UTC)He's starred in Oscar-nominated movies the past two years (Silver Linings Playbook and American Hustle) and before that he was in a sci-fi movie with Robert DeNiro (Limitless). People recognise the name and suddenly there's been some suggestion that he might actually be a good actor. I've never thought he was that bad since I originally saw him in the series "Alias" (he plays the friend who is also an investigative journalist).
The thing is he's the one in that gif firing a gun wildly, but I cannot imagine his voice suggesting 'badass' y'know?
Whereas Vin Diesel, while a little on the bland side acting-wise, I CAN imagine SOUNDING like a badass. Except he's the one playing the tree that can (apparently) only say three words? Weird!
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Date: 2014-02-16 09:52 pm (UTC)But I'm having a tough time fitting those actors' voices to either of those characters. Why does a walking tree need Vin Diesel's voice anyway?
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Date: 2014-02-16 09:58 pm (UTC)Because he is Groot?
(I suspect: Vin Diesel is a massive nerdy fanboy who volunteered to play Groot, and if he hadn't volunteered he wouldn't have been cast. Because Vin Diesel is a massive nerdy fanboy. This is the same reason Samuel Jackson was in the Star Wars prequels: He called them up and said PLEASE LET ME IN I WILL PLAY ANYONE)
And, really, Rocket Raccoon is not supposed to sound like a badass. He's supposed to sound like the competent heavily-armed straight man/exposition dude who is also a raccoon,
/me mostly wants to see an Annihilators movie. That would be HILARIOUS.
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Date: 2014-02-16 10:14 pm (UTC)I shouldn't be too surprised that this all looks and sounds utterly ridiculous
"It's not jumping the shark if you never come back down!"
More seriously: Yeah, Guardians is nuts. Has always been, all the way back to The Punishers and Marvel Boy's "DON'T GO INTO SPAAAAAAAACE" incident. That's the point.
And I am ecstatic to see a movie accepting absurd comics and trying to film them without trying to make them into fake-real crap comics.
This movie might still suck! But it won't suck because it impossibly demands that we take Batman seriously.
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Date: 2014-02-16 10:18 pm (UTC)Scrappy ordinance-heavy little tactician, sure. But bad-ass? Eh. I live in the hope that he will be more interesting and wacky.
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Date: 2014-02-15 08:11 am (UTC)DC: "Wonder Woman would be a difficult character to portray on the big screen."
Marvel: "Our next film has a Tree-Man and a Raccoon!"
Sadly, I'm a bit torn between the apparent awesome this film will bring forth vs. the fact that the guy directing it is a horrible person.
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Date: 2014-02-15 10:15 am (UTC)Of course the original blog has been memory-holed as soon as trouble reared its head. Good thing that he forgot about archive.org!
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Date: 2014-02-16 04:12 am (UTC)Think I'm still going to see it.
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Date: 2014-02-16 08:37 am (UTC)On the other hand, since I'm completely unable to go to movies (due to not being able to deal with stress of being in a loud dark room with strangers), I will wait for a DVD. And then buy it second-hand (did that to new Batman movies), or from the deep-discount bin (like I did with Ghost Rider 2).
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Date: 2014-02-16 10:23 pm (UTC)I hope you enjoy it when you get to see it. :)
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Date: 2014-02-16 10:44 pm (UTC)And well, RPGs and miniatures... I could tell stories, I really could.
Fortunately our native population is pretty good about RPGs/sci-fi/comics etc, women have always been a major part of that scene over here (from attending 'cons to arranging them to producing content). It is the international "community" which is mostly giving me grief.
I'm really hoping that Guardians will be good. I'm really hoping it won't have any outrageously sexist shit in it.
And then I just look at what that 'orrible man wrote to his blog and remember he's directing it and he's also one of the script writers. And remember that he's the man behind Lollipop Chainsaw. Yeah, I'm torn.
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Date: 2014-02-17 04:05 pm (UTC)There are some very decent people involved in the SFWA, but they don't tend to make as much news, which is sad.
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Date: 2014-02-15 03:22 pm (UTC)And if you have time, check out marvel heroes. I have no idea how they got the mmo license for ALL THE THINGS but it's kind of awesome to be able to play as any of the avengers or x men or other characters (the punisher/spiderman/ghost rider). and in theory all the characters are free with enough game play, though you can buy them/costumes/stash space to speed things up & support the game. So far it hasn't seemed pay to win, which is essential for me.
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