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Shorter BritPope: "Perhaps, now that we've been so thoroughly dragged and absolutely been proven wrong, we should stop kicking and screaming? Maybe?"

CoE supporters in response: "Never! Homosexuals are witches! They turned me into a newt!"

(No really: direct quote "We can't be certain about the direct link between bad weather and the gay marriage legislation". There are people, in 2014, who are literally claiming that nonbigoted laws cause bad weather. And they're not all Baptists.)

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Date: 2014-03-28 03:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] frith
Witchcraft. So many people believe in it. All I see are apes. Simple animals everywhere, following the herd, following the same maturation and social patterns, making up stuff to explain why one form of subjugation is fine and another isn't. Over and over again, with slight differences. What was powder blue is now pink. What was unthinkable is now the norm. What was the norm becomes a crime. And the lower you are in the local social hierarchy, the more marginal, the more different you are, the greater the chance you will get pilloried as a criminal or a witch.

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Date: 2014-03-28 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
Nah it's not even that positive

See, Welby HAS been dragged kicking and screaming. His church fought tooth and nail viciously against our equality (all our equality - not just marriage equality) but they lost. It past the commons, it past the lords, it's now happening - it's done, it's settled. His opposition is now moot. He can no longer win this fight. He has been dragged. He has been dropped into the new century and he cannot pull it back. So now he's LOST he's trying to spin his defeat into a desperate PR move. He lost this battle and in losing it he and his church looked every bit as vile and evil as they are - so now that he has lost (but still managed his quadruple lock) he's trying to make nice so we don't see him and his as the hate mongers they are,.

It's all PR spin - Welby and Francis - same old bigots just trying to spin it better

You'll note that he's only really focusing on the Anglican church in England - the global church doing happy fun things in places like Uganda - well, that's not on his "we're not going to fight this" agenda.

If he wants to prove to me he really isn't a bigot and wants to stop fighting this, he will call on Parliament to remove the quadruple lock. But he hasn't done that

Now I'm going to use my secret gay powers to strike them with lightning (because if being gay made me Storm, these bigots would be so dead by now)

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Date: 2014-03-29 06:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skiriki.livejournal.com
Couldn't LGBT crowd gather around bigotry centers with signs "if you really believe that whenever we kiss, we create storms, you might be a bit daft" and then have lots of kissings going on, just to test if storms will gather to smite down the area? You know, FOR SCIENCE?

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Date: 2014-03-29 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Nah.

In 99% of cases, no storm, no issue.

In 1% of cases, a perfectly normal storm would happen, the kissers would get rained on, and BOOM PROOF OF GOD'S WRATH

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Date: 2014-03-29 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glenn-3.livejournal.com
Well, the trouble is, religious assholes already seem happy to accept that their god has shitty aim. Katrina destroyed hospitals and nursing homes, but left the gay bars pretty much untouched, for instance. So if there was a bad storm anywhere in the freaking world, it would be a sign--no, make that a SIGN!!!--to the bigots that they were right all along. How many days a year are there no hurricanes, tornados, mudslides, wildfires that could have been started by lightning, etc, in the world?

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Date: 2014-03-29 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silmaril.livejournal.com
That reminds me of a joke.

A priest and a businessman go playing golf. The businessman is not having a good day, and when one of his putts go wide, frustrated, he grumbles "God damn it, I missed."

The priest asks him gently not to use that kind of language, God's name in vain, blasphemy, what not. The businessman agrees, but when a very easy shot goes wide again, he's once again going "God damn it, I missed."

The priest is a bit irritated and asks the businessman to mind his language again.

Well, it's really not a good day for the businessman's shoots, so once again, soon enough, he is shooting wildly off the mark and muttering "God damn it, I missed."

The priest opens his hands to the open sky and prays "Oh Lord, smite this sinner with lightning so he may know not to use blasphemy and take Your name in vain."

And lo and behold, abruptly a wind rises, dark clouds gather, storm, fury, and a lightning bolt strikes right down... on the priest.

And a deep voice booms from the heavens, "God damn it, I missed."

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Date: 2014-03-29 08:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tisiphone.livejournal.com
Plus, it's easy enough for Welby to be gracious and suggest that maybe queers are people too, since his church not only doesn't have to perform same-sex marriage, but is legally barred from doing so for the foreseeable future.

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Date: 2014-03-28 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
Or to put it another way - they're still kicking, but they're going to smile while doing it rather than scream :)

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Date: 2014-03-29 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silmaril.livejournal.com
...and again, I did a spit-take.

Why.

Why.

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