Also, getting rid of those annoying messages is not that hard.
But digging through the headers and reporting them for spamming to their ISPs, hosts, and registrars, and reporting the incident to groups like spamhaus for blacklisting is *annoying*.
(Or were you seriously going to suggest that I click "unsubscribe" on a spam?)
I am fascinated to learn that there is a site more obnoxious than FakeBook, which is still routing crap to me from different ad sites after the week I wasted there in 2010.
Hmm, doesn't sound like we're talking about the same thing, then. I've heard of people having serious trouble with spam on LI. I've not encountered that other than a tiny amount of randos and the usual smattering of clueless recruiters.
"Someone wants to add you to their professional network! Sign up for LinkedIn now!" "It's been almost two hours and X person STILL wants to add you to their professional network!" "Someone else has added the original person, and noticed that they know you and also we're pretending you're a linkedin user so they tried to add you! Sign up for LinkedIn now!" "Just an hourly reminder, you don't have a LinkedIn account and people who had your email address in their address book, which we stole, do! Sign up for LinkedIn now!"
Constant, neverending, bulk unsolicited advertising for LinkedIn. Purest spam. Each with a helpful little "click on this spam link, in this spam, and we REALLY AND FOR TRUE PROMISE to stop spamming you until we scrape your address out of someone else's book. In the mean time, we're spammers, therefore we're lying about the promise AND you've just confirmed that you read spam and click on links in it, making your address way more valuable to sell to all the other spammers" link.
I don't have a LinkedIn account. I never will, because LinkedIn are dishonest assholes out to scam me, and I know they're dishonest assholes trying to scam me BECAUSE THEY SEND SPAM.
An honest company would a) require people to submit specific addresses they're looking for, one at a time, and not scrape address books b) send ONE AND ONLY ONE email, directed to your personally, identifying who looked for you, asking you to sign up, ONCE EVER. And would take a lack of response to mean "since I do not have affirmative consent to continue sending bulk email to this person, I must not continue sending bulk email to this person." That email address would be recorded in their system as forever blacklisted, never to be emailed ever again under any circumstances, only to be removed if an account with that email address signs up *and* the owner of that email address confirms that yes, that's really my LinkedIn account.
LinkedIn does not do this, therefore LinkedIn are not an honest company.
Yeah, the few times this has happened to me, i've been able to stop it, but only by connecting the messages to my account. So, yeah, if you're not on it, it's pretty damn criminal.
At least when you "upload my contacts!" to Twitter or Facebook (also VERY stupid things to do, by the way), they look for accounts with those email addresses and suggest you might want to follow/friend them. They don't unceasingly email people who DON'T have Twitter or Facebook accounts under that email address.
This makes *Facebook* a less evil "social network" than LinkedIn. Think about that for a moment. That's like being such a predatory, abusive realtor that Wal-Mart looks at your tactics and thinks you go too far, you're on the far side of a line they won't cross.
I'm with LinkedIn and AFAIK, you're not required to give them any of your email contacts. LinkedIn asks to access your address book during the sign-up process, but it's optional. Of course, stupid people will think that's a totally splendid idea and click on "YES PLEASE SPAM EVERYONE I HAVE EVER EMAILED AND INVITE THEM TO JOIN MY NETWORK!!!!!". And there are LOTS of stupid people on the interwebz.
LinkedIn are spammers because they send unsolicited bulk email, over and over and over again, to people who have not opted-in to receive their email.
All it takes is one stupid person who has seen your email address at some point to miss the default-on "please steal my information" box and LinkedIn will never, ever, ever stop spamming you.
Quite true. And one such stupid person happens to live across the street from me. A brilliant man with hundreds of books to his name, and still stupid.
His mistake was clicking the links that say "don't email me".
Honest companies won't email you in the first place. Since they're emailing you in the first place, they're by definition a DISHONEST company. Dishonest companies will never, ever let go of an email address that they've confirmed is dumb enough to click on things.
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Date: 2014-03-31 05:04 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2014-03-31 05:15 pm (UTC)Also, getting rid of those annoying messages is not that hard.
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Date: 2014-03-31 05:23 pm (UTC)But digging through the headers and reporting them for spamming to their ISPs, hosts, and registrars, and reporting the incident to groups like spamhaus for blacklisting is *annoying*.
(Or were you seriously going to suggest that I click "unsubscribe" on a spam?)
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Date: 2014-03-31 07:30 pm (UTC)I am fascinated to learn that there is a site more obnoxious than FakeBook, which is still routing crap to me from different ad sites after the week I wasted there in 2010.
(*Low Horrified Renfield-Like Laughter.)
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Date: 2014-03-31 11:45 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2014-04-01 12:00 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2014-04-01 06:04 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2014-04-01 12:52 pm (UTC)"It's been almost two hours and X person STILL wants to add you to their professional network!"
"Someone else has added the original person, and noticed that they know you and also we're pretending you're a linkedin user so they tried to add you! Sign up for LinkedIn now!"
"Just an hourly reminder, you don't have a LinkedIn account and people who had your email address in their address book, which we stole, do! Sign up for LinkedIn now!"
Constant, neverending, bulk unsolicited advertising for LinkedIn. Purest spam. Each with a helpful little "click on this spam link, in this spam, and we REALLY AND FOR TRUE PROMISE to stop spamming you until we scrape your address out of someone else's book. In the mean time, we're spammers, therefore we're lying about the promise AND you've just confirmed that you read spam and click on links in it, making your address way more valuable to sell to all the other spammers" link.
I don't have a LinkedIn account. I never will, because LinkedIn are dishonest assholes out to scam me, and I know they're dishonest assholes trying to scam me BECAUSE THEY SEND SPAM.
An honest company would
a) require people to submit specific addresses they're looking for, one at a time, and not scrape address books
b) send ONE AND ONLY ONE email, directed to your personally, identifying who looked for you, asking you to sign up, ONCE EVER. And would take a lack of response to mean "since I do not have affirmative consent to continue sending bulk email to this person, I must not continue sending bulk email to this person." That email address would be recorded in their system as forever blacklisted, never to be emailed ever again under any circumstances, only to be removed if an account with that email address signs up *and* the owner of that email address confirms that yes, that's really my LinkedIn account.
LinkedIn does not do this, therefore LinkedIn are not an honest company.
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Date: 2014-04-01 07:42 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2014-04-01 12:57 pm (UTC)This makes *Facebook* a less evil "social network" than LinkedIn. Think about that for a moment. That's like being such a predatory, abusive realtor that Wal-Mart looks at your tactics and thinks you go too far, you're on the far side of a line they won't cross.
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Date: 2014-03-31 05:19 pm (UTC)And there are LOTS of stupid people on the interwebz.
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Date: 2014-03-31 05:24 pm (UTC)All it takes is one stupid person who has seen your email address at some point to miss the default-on "please steal my information" box and LinkedIn will never, ever, ever stop spamming you.
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Date: 2014-03-31 11:25 pm (UTC)(Insert "grrrr" sound here.)
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Date: 2014-03-31 11:24 pm (UTC)Whereas the spam on Facebook is just never-ending and no amount of changing my settings seems to do anything to stop it.
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Date: 2014-04-01 06:43 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2014-04-01 06:49 pm (UTC)Honest companies won't email you in the first place.
Since they're emailing you in the first place, they're by definition a DISHONEST company.
Dishonest companies will never, ever let go of an email address that they've confirmed is dumb enough to click on things.