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Date: 2014-05-19 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skington.livejournal.com
Supposedly, according to Private Eye (https://twitter.com/sunny_hundal/status/467784116038279168/photo/1), many of the stories about how racist UKIP candidates are, have actually been leaked by the Tories' oppo research people.

Talking of Farage, you've seen this spectacular meltdown / excellent interview (http://www.lbc.co.uk/watch-nigel-farage-v-james-obrien-live-from-1130-90532), yes?

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Date: 2014-05-19 11:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
I'm not surprised at all by allegations that the Tories have been looking up things their primary opponents have said, and publicising them. That's VERY BASIC SHIT: When people are taking your votes, LOOK UP THE THINGS THEY SAY AND BRING ATTENTION TO THE STUPID ONES.

If your main complaint is "our opponents pay attention to what we say and repeat it", you're fucked.

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Date: 2014-05-20 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skington.livejournal.com
Oh sure; the interesting part of that story is that one of the newspapers that has agreed to pretend they didn't get the story from the Tories is the Guardian.

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Date: 2014-05-20 11:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Is there evidence that they've actually "agreed to pretend" and that they aren't getting this on their own? UKIP politicians these days are like Canadian Reform Alliance Party[1] backbenchers before the muzzles came out and the message discipline kicked in - a fountain of terrible.

(I mean, I know that column claimed it, but that's something in gossip-column-format from a British newspaper. Should I take their unsourced claim seriously?)


[1]: Their real name. They picked it. Not a joke name.
Edited Date: 2014-05-20 12:11 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2014-05-20 09:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] matgb
Annoying long comment lost because this laptop isn't configured sensibly and I haven't done the settings swoop yet. Private Eye is a notorious news magazine with a history of publishing stuff that's probably true but not provably so, some columns more reliable than others, Street Of Shame is normally incredibly well sourced as half the entries are written by the journalists pissed off at the orders they've been given.

If they had a decent website they're be the go-to news organisation for most of us these days...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Eye

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Date: 2014-05-21 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skington.livejournal.com
Similarly, Le Canard Enchaîné in France is a similar dumping ground for gossip that real newspapers either can't or won't publish, as well as genuine investigatory stuff. (It doesn't run ads, for instance, so it doesn't have to worry about pissing off advertisers.)

So, for instance, when it turns out that the French railways have ordered hundreds of trains that are too big (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/21/french-railway-operator-sncf-orders-trains-too-big) and the SNCF claims it's just a few hundred, and Le Canard Enchaîné says it's thousands, I'd believe Le Canard.

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Date: 2014-05-20 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
...so the claim is basically that the Guardian agreed to "Promise not to be mean to us and we'll check Twitter for you"?

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Date: 2014-05-20 02:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] fridgepunk.livejournal.com
It's probably more that the tories offered to be laxer about press regs in exchange for this - note of course that this sort of shit is SOP, a lot of newspaper campaigns in the UK are dreamt up by the government in power, and then they pitch it to the government's allied newspapers and the newspapers then "pressure" the government to implement the policy the government came up with to begin with.

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Date: 2014-05-19 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
Ah, this would be one of the more moderate UKIP members.

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Date: 2014-05-20 07:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skiriki.livejournal.com
The "love, puppies and rainbows" wing of the party?

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Date: 2014-05-19 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thornae.livejournal.com
That's a great article, with a superbly innocent not-at-all-sarcastic little coda.

My favourite quote from it has to be
“I would hate to be an embarrassment to Nigel Farage. I have the greatest respect for him.”

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Date: 2014-05-19 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krfsm.livejournal.com
By their (strange) fruits ye shall know them, as the Bible says.

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Date: 2014-05-19 11:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] alienor77310.livejournal.com
The actual letter says his opponents should "be hung", which has lots of people snickering over here.

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