It turns out my choices took every category except two.
#1: Best Dramatic Long, Guardians Of The Galaxy: A phenomenally popular good film that worthless shitheads happened to also like. #2: Best Novel: The 3-Body Problem: A book where I couldn't get past the stilted translations and clunky expository lumps to get to the things everyone said were good, no matter how many times I tried. But I get why other less-discriminating people liked it.
Other initial Best Novel analysis: Goblin Emperor lost the Best Novel to Three-Body Problem by 200 votes. Since there seem to have been at least 500 Rabid Puppy voters who followed VD’s suggestion to vote Liu first, this means Liu won because of the Rabid Puppies. Take that as you will.
The Rabid one did recommend voting that first.
But I think it's a minor point, it wasn't their nomination which is what really matters.
Pretty much: if Correia hadn't gotten cold feet and Kloos hadn't decided to do the right thing, it would never have been on the ballot in the first place.
And I know a *lot* of people who loved it and raved about it and thought it was great - it had huge buzz pre-ballot, which, uh, the fact that it got on without dumbass votes shows.
So I'm okay with it winning. Things I personally don't like often win, and with the exception of Doctor Fucking Who they're generally valid-if-misguided choices.
I like Doctor Who, but I am very glad it's not just winning by default every year now. Blink deserved it, not sure any of the other eps that got it, and Orphan Black is just phenomenally good, Jennie didn't bother to specifically rewatch the nominated episode, it was an Orphan Black episode ergo it deserved to win. I also like Grimm, but what they were doing choosing that episode is beyond me, not even the best of a show that's merely passable entertainment.
Still, the maths is interesting on the whole thing, now all we need to do is get all those eligible people to actually nominate stuff next year, that's the bog flaw in the process.
I like Doctor Who sometimes, too - Blink was amazing and it's my go-to explanation of "here is why Doctor Who is good", but for the most part it's an okay series with some DEEPLY problematic bits where the worst episodes get nominated for awards.
I don't think there's been a good Doctor Who Hugo nomination, let alone win, since Blink. Or before Blink.
If they did, it was only just barely. Accepting the figure of about 500 RP voters, and looking at the actual figures, there were 251 first-preference votes for Darkness Between the Stars, which no sane non-slater would have voted for. Anyway, I think it's a minor point. It was a good work and, though I didn't vote for it, it deserved the rocket.
Between this and Helsinki bid win, it has been a pretty riotously funny weekend (if we, for a moment, put aside that the true losers were all those good people who got pushed off the voting list by incontinent canines).
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Date: 2015-08-23 04:50 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2015-08-23 04:58 am (UTC)So far, my choices (http://theweaselking.livejournal.com/4687039.html?style=mine) have won all the awards.
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Date: 2015-08-23 05:42 am (UTC)#1: Best Dramatic Long, Guardians Of The Galaxy: A phenomenally popular good film that worthless shitheads happened to also like.
#2: Best Novel: The 3-Body Problem: A book where I couldn't get past the stilted translations and clunky expository lumps to get to the things everyone said were good, no matter how many times I tried. But I get why other less-discriminating people liked it.
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Date: 2015-08-23 10:31 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2015-08-23 12:03 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2015-08-24 12:18 am (UTC)From: 2015 Hugo Stats: Initial Analysis | Chaos Horizon:The Rabid one did recommend voting that first.
But I think it's a minor point, it wasn't their nomination which is what really matters.
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Date: 2015-08-24 12:43 am (UTC)And I know a *lot* of people who loved it and raved about it and thought it was great - it had huge buzz pre-ballot, which, uh, the fact that it got on without dumbass votes shows.
So I'm okay with it winning. Things I personally don't like often win, and with the exception of Doctor Fucking Who they're generally valid-if-misguided choices.
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Date: 2015-08-24 01:28 am (UTC)Still, the maths is interesting on the whole thing, now all we need to do is get all those eligible people to actually nominate stuff next year, that's the bog flaw in the process.
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Date: 2015-08-24 01:55 am (UTC)I don't think there's been a good Doctor Who Hugo nomination, let alone win, since Blink. Or before Blink.
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