By "children" what exactly do you mean? Being that each book is progressively darker and dealing with more adult matters than the last, I wonder. While I agree that the books never leave the teenage arena, I would hardly call teenagers "children." I'm also missing how things aimed at children are necessarily bad because of it. It's difficult trying to take your critique seriously when you're painting the entire series with one sadly over-generalized brush. Which one did you read? Did you read any beyond that? It's also a little difficult accepting "I hate it that they're so cute" from someone who makes it a habit of posting fluffy animals in various "cute" situations.
> I'm also missing how things aimed at children are necessarily bad because > of it.
I didn't say it was necessarily bad. I said:
It drives me batshit trying to take the book seriously when every third word or concept is selfconsciously "cute".
> It's also a little difficult accepting "I hate it that they're so cute"
That's not what I said.
Look at the names of the characters, with the exceptions of Harry, That Other Guy, and Hermione. The names of the spells. The names of the houses of students. "Muggles".
These things drive me nuts when they keep coming up. Oh, hahahahaha, there's been three werewolf references and a new character named "Lupin", I wonder what the connection is? Oooooh, a SCARY dog. Also a character named Sirius Black! Oh no, I wonder if we're supposed to assume that people from "Slytherin" are unscrupulous!
These things blow the suspension of disbelief for me.
Completely.
They make the books NOT FUN TO READ, just like White Wolf's execrable fiction that keeps throwing in game mechanic terms.
If you like 'em, like 'em. Have fun. I've never said they're bad, I've said *I* can't stand to read them because of the puns.
Do you have any joie de vivre or do you just live to hate everything? Seriously. I don't think I've ever met a more miserable person than you in my entire life. It's like you aren't happy (and I use that in the most general terms) unless you've picked apart everything and found out that - surprise! - it's not perfect and worth not liking/hating because of that imperfection.
One wonders why you keep asking me things if you don't like my answers.
I like lots of things. I simply restrict my liking to things that don't cause my pain and do stand up to thinking about them. Oh noes, I'm a horrible elitist because I don't like everything!
I suppose now you're going to explain why "The Mummy" isn't perfect but you love it anyway because to not like something makes you a miserable person, right?
I don't like everything either. I dislike things. I like things. That's the difference: From where I'm standing, you dislike things and hate things. You also seem to actively search for reasons to dislike things whereas I dislike things when they give me a reason to dislike them. It's like you dig and dig and dig until you finally find your little nugget of imperfection. Like I've said elsewhere, I get the feeling that you only like things because you haven't found something wrong with them yet. And the "yet" is what you seem to cling to.
Now, being that I don't really know you beyond the internet and the few times we've seen each other in person, I am fully aware of the precarious stance I'm taking. However, that's how you come off to me with what I do know about/of you.
One wonders why you keep asking me things if you don't like my answers. Since when has liking the answers had anything to do with asking questions? Whether I like the answers or not, if I intend to understand what I'm asking about, I need to keep asking questions until I do.
We've got the whole series leading up to the current one on sale for 25% off in paperback ... if we've still got them. I've been thinking of getting those, but there's always libraries or friends to borrow from.
I actually read the first one, then the third one much later. After finishing the third one, I went back and read every one of them by the end of the week. So I did more of a 1-3-2-4-5-6 thing. I wouldn't reccomend reading them in that order, but it didn't ruin my enjoyment in the least by reading them that way.
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Date: 2005-07-16 01:41 am (UTC)That's alright, I forgive you. You don't know any better.
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Date: 2005-07-17 03:53 am (UTC)A large part of that is the jargon.
It drives me batshit trying to take the book seriously when every third word or concept is selfconsciously "cute".
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Date: 2005-07-17 07:07 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-07-17 03:16 pm (UTC)> of it.
I didn't say it was necessarily bad. I said:
It drives me batshit trying to take the book seriously when every third word or concept is selfconsciously "cute".
> It's also a little difficult accepting "I hate it that they're so cute"
That's not what I said.
Look at the names of the characters, with the exceptions of Harry, That Other Guy, and Hermione. The names of the spells. The names of the houses of students. "Muggles".
These things drive me nuts when they keep coming up. Oh, hahahahaha, there's been three werewolf references and a new character named "Lupin", I wonder what the connection is? Oooooh, a SCARY dog. Also a character named Sirius Black! Oh no, I wonder if we're supposed to assume that people from "Slytherin" are unscrupulous!
These things blow the suspension of disbelief for me.
Completely.
They make the books NOT FUN TO READ, just like White Wolf's execrable fiction that keeps throwing in game mechanic terms.
If you like 'em, like 'em. Have fun. I've never said they're bad, I've said *I* can't stand to read them because of the puns.
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Date: 2005-07-17 05:15 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2005-07-17 06:16 pm (UTC)I like lots of things. I simply restrict my liking to things that don't cause my pain and do stand up to thinking about them. Oh noes, I'm a horrible elitist because I don't like everything!
I suppose now you're going to explain why "The Mummy" isn't perfect but you love it anyway because to not like something makes you a miserable person, right?
I think I'll be waiting a while, on that one.
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Date: 2005-07-17 06:33 pm (UTC)Now, being that I don't really know you beyond the internet and the few times we've seen each other in person, I am fully aware of the precarious stance I'm taking. However, that's how you come off to me with what I do know about/of you.
One wonders why you keep asking me things if you don't like my answers.
Since when has liking the answers had anything to do with asking questions? Whether I like the answers or not, if I intend to understand what I'm asking about, I need to keep asking questions until I do.
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Date: 2005-07-16 01:56 am (UTC)TL;DR
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