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Date: 2007-05-23 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atlasimpure.livejournal.com
Terrorism aims for a larger effect, he felt he was merely defending Falwell's memory.

Delusional? Yes.
Terrorism? Not quite.

To use your definition, protection scams would fall under the heading of "terrorism".

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Date: 2007-05-23 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anivair.livejournal.com
protection scams aren't going ot reach as many eyes and ears. if I scare Apu into paying Jimmy the fish protection money, that's one thing. If I kill Apu for being muslim to send a message to all muslims everywhere, that's terrorism.

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Date: 2007-05-23 05:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atlasimpure.livejournal.com
If I kill Apu and his entire family, all the other fish shops on the block will pay me without question.

You imply that terrorism can't be conducted for money.

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Date: 2007-05-23 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anivair.livejournal.com
No, I imply that money isn't important at all. Terrorism is a tactic. The goals are irrelevant.

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Date: 2007-05-23 12:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atlasimpure.livejournal.com
Terror is a weapon, not merely an idea.

In fact, after further consideration, I realize that protection rackets are an excellent scaled down example of how terrorism functions.

It's a system independant of ideology or motive.

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Date: 2007-05-23 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
Terror is a weapon. . . .

Which makes a "war on terror" (sic) an impossibility. Wouldn't be the first logical impossibility this administration has perpetrated. Won't be the last.

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Date: 2007-05-23 11:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atlasimpure.livejournal.com
QF-frackin-T


Almost as logical as a war on "drugs".

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Date: 2007-05-24 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anivair.livejournal.com
Scaled down to the point that i'm not sure I'd use the word anymore. i think that what seperates our modern idea of a terrorist from someone just using fear as a weapon is the adgenda. But that's semantic, i suppose.

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Date: 2007-05-24 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atlasimpure.livejournal.com
Most of that modern idea is a result of intentional misuse and spin.

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Date: 2007-05-24 04:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anivair.livejournal.com
that's true, but I'm not sure that the idea of pushing an ideology isn't actually a good one. Sure, it removes Vinie the Fish and his thugs who shake down the local pawn shop, but it allows for the christians who blow up abortion doctors and I know what I think does more damage to the most people.

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Date: 2007-05-24 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atlasimpure.livejournal.com
Adding ideology doesn't remove the requirement for how the method is utilized.

And abortion clinic bombers ARE terrorists and refered to as such by most international listings of terrorist acts.

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