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Date: 2007-07-17 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goblinpaladin.livejournal.com
Yegods, man. Has the torturebation industry really gotten to this stage?

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Date: 2007-07-17 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silmaril.livejournal.com
Apparently...

I vaguely remember there was much eyebrow-raising when the billboard-ads for this movie appeared, too.

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Date: 2007-07-17 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goblinpaladin.livejournal.com
Either they haven't appeared here yet, or I've not seen them.

Either way, I'm pleased.

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Date: 2007-07-17 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anivair.livejournal.com
Actually, the first actual poster, featuring her in a box filling with sand, rocked. But the first few ads were a touch over the top. Viral stuff.

I think I may rent this movie just to see if the reviews are correct. I want to believe that it's a two hour torture fantasy, but I have a feeling that it's little more than a twist ending slasher movie executed poorly.

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Date: 2007-07-17 03:32 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2007-07-17 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leighdb.livejournal.com
Lip-curling, too, at least on my part.

Anyone who doesn't believe gynophobia is alive and well in society today, need look no further for really, really disturbing proof to the contrary.

Ugh.

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Date: 2007-07-17 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mamomo.livejournal.com
A lot of people are saying that torture porn is now on it's way out, and PG-13 psychological horror a la 1408 is going to be the new thing. That doesn't mean movies like Captivity will go away, they're just becoming unpopular. The horror genre is very susceptible to trends, which in this case, is a good thing.

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Date: 2007-07-17 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
On the one hand, I'm glad to hear it.

On the other hand, I'm now going to go cry because people are referring to 1408 as psychological horror.

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Date: 2007-07-17 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] netcrimes.livejournal.com
I see it got an "F"

I think it needs more of a "WTF"

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Date: 2007-07-17 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mamomo.livejournal.com
Thanks for the warning. I'll watch pretty much any horror movie no matter how stupid or low or gross or whatever, but I don't think I can deal with this one.

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Date: 2007-07-17 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimrunner.livejournal.com
Do not, whatever you do, read the viewer reviews on IMDB for this movie.

And once you do, you'll understand why I take martial arts.

The last guy I met who called himself a "nice guy" had just spent the last few hours getting a girl who'd just walked out on her boyfriend drunk. Yeah. Right.

"Nice guys"...aren't.

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Date: 2007-07-17 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Obligatory. (http://divalion.livejournal.com/163615.html)

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Date: 2007-07-17 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
Amen.

> And once you do, you'll understand why I take martial arts.

Horrible thought?

I'm trying to make more time to exercise in my life.

And right now, I'm just getting a little (very little!) creeped out enough that the thought of exercising. Because exercising makes you healthy and fit. And thus generally more attractive.

And I know this is my upset and anger and frustration right now, but it just doesn't seem like a good idea to be attractive. At all.

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Date: 2007-07-17 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
I think it's a good idea.

And I'll do a very good "thog smash puny human" impression on people who annoy you. I promise.

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Date: 2007-07-17 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
On the one hand, I know it.

On the other hand, the idea that I might ever need you to, and that I maybe can't go about safely without an escort, is enough to make me weep.

(With rage. Frustrated, eternal, helpless rage.)

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Date: 2007-07-17 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
"need" isn't the right word. This is an entirely optional service we provide to you, the consumer.

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Date: 2007-07-17 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
Among the many reasons I love you is your ability to make me want to laugh.

(Making me laugh is easy. I am, after all, somewhat ticklish. Making me *want* to laugh in this mood is a much sweeter trick.)

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Date: 2007-07-17 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimrunner.livejournal.com
Think of it this way.

If you're fit, you can run faster/hit harder/yell louder/generally present a less appealing target.

Although, knowing yourself psychologically as well as physically capable of poking someone's eye out or breaking their knee is quite confidence-building, let me tell you.

(Not many women train with my teacher, but he prefers to teach us. He thinks we're better at it and are more likely to need it.)

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Date: 2007-07-17 10:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jerril
I recall a self-defense class I took in highschool, where one of the girls bit the instructor on the knee and left him walking with a cane for the rest of the course.

Good times, good times.

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Date: 2007-07-17 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimrunner.livejournal.com
Actually, many instructors recommend against biting because of the possibility of acquiring a bloodborne disease, but the instinct is certainly sound.

Plus, you know, given the choice between defending my life now and maybe being sick later, I'll clamp down like a freaking pit bull.

We recommend elbows over teeth too...

Date: 2007-07-18 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jsbowden.livejournal.com
Breaking your teeth is painful and unattractive as well...

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Date: 2007-07-19 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
I know.

There're just times when given the choice, I'd like to be fit without ever risking being attractive.

Am not currently in that particular funk, although I think the phrase "risking being attractive" explains and connotes and summarizes more than I ever want it to.

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Date: 2007-07-18 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kookiemaster.livejournal.com
Training will help your body develop reflexes. Good defensive reflexes ... which can also help you avoid injury during accidents or falls. Granted a few friends have learned the hard way never to try and grab the back of my neck by surprise but it's good to know that your body "knows" what to do because in an emergency situation you don't have time to think.

Training also helps you discover the funny fact that a human body is both a target with weak spots and a very versatile weapon. Granted I have no illusions that with my puny stature I could take out someone twice my size unless they were incredibly stupid or clumsy. I would however be able to strike back and buy myself some time because everybody has eyeballs, a nose, fingers and a thachea.

I also think that beyond appearances, how you feel shows and people cue in on this. I think that if you think of yourself as a target or a potential victim, you are more likely to become one, regardless of how you are dressed.

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Date: 2007-07-19 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
I know what the advantages of training are (though I was speaking simply of exercise), and that is all to the good; I'd just rather have them without having to take the side effect of being more attractive (which has nothing to do with how you're dressed; I'm thinking symmetry, skin and muscle tone, balance, breathing, and all such general health cues which are improved by sustained exercise and do influence how attractive someone seems to be).

> I think that if you think of yourself as a target or a
> potential victim, you are more likely to become one,
> regardless of how you are dressed.

(I offer the counterpoint that you are more likely to watch for potentially or particularly dangerous situations and stay out of them, and are thus less likely to become one.)

Being a target or a potential victim is nothing to do with you; you are the target or the victim of someone else. The status of target or victim is something that gets thrust upon you. You can recognize that you have traits which may make you more vulnerable, though I don't think that honest (self- and other-directed) assessment necessarily sends signals that indicate to others that you're an easier target.

Then there's having to be aware that others may or may not consider you a target. On the good days, I resent having to pay attention to other people's failure to function properly--which is what that is, basically--on the bad days, it goes from resentment into screaming frustrated rage. (The days when I accept it as a given, those are neither. They're profoundly upsetting when I notice what I'm doing, though.)

And, you know, if I could reduce the odds even a little, so I had to think about it even a little less--

--it's letting the potential stupidity crassness inhumanity of others dictate some aspect of my life and myself and who I see in the mirror, to do maybe a little less work, and maybe feel a little bit safer, not a lot.

But it's still really attractive.

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