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In [livejournal.com profile] lj_biz, a question is asked: Why are pro-anorexia communities tolerated?

[livejournal.com profile] coffeechica, who is one of the people running Livejournal, manages to clearly demonstrate that she has no idea what "pro-anorexia" means, and then flip-flop repeatedly on why some of the TOS are more equal than others. It's a train wreck.

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Date: 2007-08-08 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimrunner.livejournal.com
Don't they have legal counsel? I mean, seriously. Are they slow learners, or what?

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Date: 2007-08-08 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cacahuate.livejournal.com
She's not just a staffer, she's a customer service representative. It is completely unfathomable.

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Date: 2007-08-08 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
She's speaking to end users on a free service.

That makes her a first-level CSR.

That makes her clueless by definition. If she wasn't, she'd have a different job.

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Date: 2007-08-08 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaosrah.livejournal.com
Can you sum this up for me? Cause I just tried to look through that, holy crap... I can't even find the things that coffeechica said.

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Date: 2007-08-08 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flemco.livejournal.com
LJ: We deleted Snape and Potter porno communities because it's bad.
USERS: So are a lot of things on LJ!
LJ: Nothing promoting illegal or damaging behavior, thanks.
USERS: WTF??? You allow Pro-Anorexia groups on here!
LJ: Yes, because without those groups, Anorexics will have nowhere to go for support.*
USERS: [Descend into howler monkey wrath]
LJ: Look, there's nothing wrong with girls who want to be thin.*
USERS: [Continue to howl and gibber, fling feces, don't seem to understand that LJ can do any damn thing they want and that's that.]

*I really wish I was making that up.

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Date: 2007-08-08 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaosrah.livejournal.com
lmao, THANK YOU!!

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Date: 2007-08-08 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
If you search for "coffeechica", you should get to her posts and by clicking on them you should be able to see the first-level of responses.

However, the summary is this:

LJ bans fanficcers for making kiddy porn fic (good, that shit is both shit and illegal)
LJ bans fanficcers for making *adult* porn fic that involves no children at all (mixed: It's still shit, but it's legal shit)
LJ explains these bans as TOS violations.

User points out that TOS includes rules against self-harm and self-destructive behaviour, and advocacy of same. Points out pro-anorexia communities.

LJ responds, alternately, with "those are support groups, they help the victims", "banning the groups won't fix the problem", "has anyone reported them to Abuse?" and "they do more good than harm, so they can stay".

Demonstrating, in order, cluelessness, cluelessness, cluelessness, and cluelessness.

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Date: 2007-08-09 06:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kookiemaster.livejournal.com
*sigh*

That just makes me want to start a Pro_Addiction community ... where we discuss the best ways to find our next fix and not get caught.

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Date: 2007-08-08 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrbankies.livejournal.com
I really hate it when I get covered in 3rd degree burns from the stupid. Ow.

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Date: 2007-08-08 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] graethorne.livejournal.com
I think I'll go flush my brain with bleach, now. Pro-anorexia... a phrase I never would've imagined I'd hear. Anorezia Support might make sense, but sense seems to be one of the missing elements in the whole business.

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Date: 2007-08-08 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] le-trombone.livejournal.com
Oh yes, it's been around for a few years now. Including a goddess of anorexia ("Ana", of course).

Hmm, linky stuff: Anorexia Goes High Tech.

From: [identity profile] speck.livejournal.com
It burns, it does. Glad I still have my esophagus and other internal body parts in relative working order.

Going to get my ducks in a row within the next couple of weeks and just make mine a frivolity journal.

Since they take their permaban people and cancel all accounts by email address (communities, etc) from what I saw from Ponderosa and others ... I'll have to do something about that. Sigh.

This person makes the case that all fanfic (http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/lawpoli/free-expression/tsol.php?r=na) is illegal and it's interesting, if based on a flawed premise, but most of this situation is based on premises with flaws.

In case you don't want to read all the way down to page 36 for my comment/performance art ...

http://pics.livejournal.com/mynn/pic/0000gc7f

It's actually a good thing that Brad is leaving. Then after a few more weeks of frothing, he can come back in and "save it" with a decent response. Or they can find a vocal "hater" and hire him/her to wander in and fix it better. If they care.

Hey, have you seen this post?

http://pyrop.livejournal.com/743350.html

Aside from LJ/6a asshattery, social networks have/are evolving, thanks in no small part to Brad. But that's a discussion for my off hours another day.

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