Twyman knows his approach to gasoline prices may sound simplistic. He's quick to point out that anyone praying for cheaper fuel also has an obligation to do something more active about the problem.
"People have to walk more, leave those cars at home, and carpool, man," he said. "We have to become more practical."
The guy's not a total nutter; he's also done a really large amount of valuable charity work in drives to get ethnic minorities into bone marrow and organ donor registration lists.
Faith combined with good works is not contemptible, just misguided.
So efforts to save lives and get politicians' attention diverted to a major crisis are contemptible solely because they're being done for reasons of faith?
It would be better if they were instead done because human lives are actually valuable in and of themselves instead of solely as points on a cosmic scoreboard, and that the major crisis has been recognised through reason rather than being put off for thirty+ years due to the stranglehold that faith has on the political process.
I suppose that not everyone has tolerance for the beliefs of others.
I'm tolerating the hell out of it. But, when you drag your beliefs into the public square, other people get to make fun of them. Especially when ur doin it wrong.
On one hand, they're doing what they feel like they can do about it, which essentially amounts to "nothing".
On the other hand, "lowest prices in the world" is a poor consolation when it's more than double what we were paying a couple of years ago. The U.S. is big and sprawling, and with the notable exception of a handful of the largest metro areas, public transportation is too poor to rely on to get you from A to B on a day-to-day basis. If you don't know someone who has a car, there are things you'll just have to go without. And for a large number of Americans, if you don't own a car (or a very reliable carpool), you're just not going to get to work. We may use more gas than the rest of the world, and complain about its prices really loudly. But unfortunately, the way it was decided to set everything up, we tend to need it more than most of the world, too.
Agreed. Sure, they pay more for gas in england, but they can cross their whole damn country in a day with time to spare for dinner. And they have better public transportation by far. Not to mention the fact that our cost of living is set to assume a specific amount of money for things like transportation and in the last year or so that cost has doubled, but nothing else has gone down to match.
it's not like people are just whining because gas costs more. I can't see how anyone making minimum wage can even afford to drive. I can barely afford to drive.
My daily commute is 90 miles (~140Km) per day. Someone I complained to looked at me and asked why I didn't take the train. I laughed and said I wish I could
(and, is it completely impossible to work remotely, or live closer? Obviously "live closer" is a HUGE undertaking, but that doesn't mean it's not possibly a worthwhile one to save you three hours a day spent in transit.)
Ah, I see. Didn't realize that there'd been a permanent moratorium enacted to prevent any development of public transportation ever into anything that could be at all useful. (That is what "never happen" means, right? :) )
Nowhere does the article say that the people organizing this cite their lowest-in-the-world gas prices as too high. The organizer also doesn't seem like your usual clueless asshole living-on-faith yob - he's done a lot of valuable charity work, acknowledges that faith alone won't solve the problem, and says that he's organizing it as a pray-in in order to *get attention from politicians who can solve the problem*. Actually seems like a damn good plan to me.
Agreed. As far as tactics go, trying to get people to publically commit to making a change and
He's also hoping that if enough people start praying at the pump, politicians who might actually be able to do something about the problem will listen.
Wash the feet of someone who was cured of cancer - through science - with water; Dilute that washwater a billionfold; Put it on the market as a cure or treatment, and call it effective. -?
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Date: 2008-04-28 02:37 pm (UTC)"People have to walk more, leave those cars at home, and carpool, man," he said. "We have to become more practical."
The guy's not a total nutter; he's also done a really large amount of valuable charity work in drives to get ethnic minorities into bone marrow and organ donor registration lists.
Faith combined with good works is not contemptible, just misguided.
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Date: 2008-04-28 02:51 pm (UTC)But I still get to point and laugh.
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Date: 2008-04-28 02:58 pm (UTC)I'm tolerating the hell out of it. But, when you drag your beliefs into the public square, other people get to make fun of them. Especially when ur doin it wrong.
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Date: 2008-04-28 02:30 pm (UTC)On the other hand, "lowest prices in the world" is a poor consolation when it's more than double what we were paying a couple of years ago. The U.S. is big and sprawling, and with the notable exception of a handful of the largest metro areas, public transportation is too poor to rely on to get you from A to B on a day-to-day basis. If you don't know someone who has a car, there are things you'll just have to go without. And for a large number of Americans, if you don't own a car (or a very reliable carpool), you're just not going to get to work. We may use more gas than the rest of the world, and complain about its prices really loudly. But unfortunately, the way it was decided to set everything up, we tend to need it more than most of the world, too.
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Date: 2008-04-28 02:54 pm (UTC)it's not like people are just whining because gas costs more. I can't see how anyone making minimum wage can even afford to drive. I can barely afford to drive.
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Date: 2008-04-28 03:52 pm (UTC)My daily commute is 90 miles (~140Km) per day. Someone I complained to looked at me and asked why I didn't take the train. I laughed and said I wish I could
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Date: 2008-04-28 06:00 pm (UTC)(and, is it completely impossible to work remotely, or live closer? Obviously "live closer" is a HUGE undertaking, but that doesn't mean it's not possibly a worthwhile one to save you three hours a day spent in transit.)
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Date: 2008-04-28 02:42 pm (UTC)Re: Your headline's off.
Date: 2008-04-28 02:50 pm (UTC)Re: Your headline's off.
Date: 2008-04-28 03:34 pm (UTC)Wash the feet of someone who was cured of cancer - through science - with water;
Dilute that washwater a billionfold;
Put it on the market as a cure or treatment, and call it effective. -?
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