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Date: 2008-04-29 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autobotsrollout.livejournal.com
It'll be interesting to see how the decision comes down.

Under Canadian law, they're guilty.

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Date: 2008-04-29 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
They're guilty under US law, too. The question is whether or not they'll get a pass on the grounds that basing your crimes on Christianity means you don't go to jail, just like rich white popular men can't be convicted of raping poor women.

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Date: 2008-04-29 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anivair.livejournal.com
Man, that would tick me off. I said I lke prayer, but that doesn't mean you ignore the science. Jeebus! People that do this piss me off. i hate when people act like medicine and science are the enemy just because they disagree with their baby-like paradigm of the world.

Newsflash. if you really believe in god, then he didn't just make you and your fundie friends, he also made the nice doctor who could save your little girl's life. You think God screwed up so badly that he's got the entire civilized world doing things he doesn't want? How incompetent do you think this guy is?

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Date: 2008-04-29 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faolan-phe0nix.livejournal.com
Grr. They believe in a non-descript un-named non-denominational faith based diety? But NOT in proven medical techniques? ::rips out hair::

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Date: 2008-04-29 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_jeremiad/
Good.

I was raised in a cult that didn't believe in certain medical treatments either and that shit is fucking insane.

Reason #3,296 for why I don't like organized religion.

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Date: 2008-04-29 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
There are about 100,000 "Christian Scientists" in the world, but, if we're lucky, one good case of measles should soon get that down to four digits or so.

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Date: 2008-04-29 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anivair.livejournal.com
I'm all for that.

Shit like this bothers me because it's ignorant cretins dragging the idea of a supreme being down to their level.

Even if you believe their shit, god is eternal. You think he gives a shit if you live an extra ten years? You think he cares a lick? And if he cares that much, do you honestly think any doctor in the world can stop him from taking your baby girl home? not a chance.

I also like people that think that revelations is technically accurate, and not a satirical recount of the fall of rome. like God can't write satire? George orwell wrote satire and the all mighty is sure as shit a better writer that george orwell!
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Date: 2008-04-30 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_jeremiad/
My favorite part is his e-mail, "Help, our daughter needs emergency prayer!"

I felt like saying, "No, what your daughter needs is an emergency room. "

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Date: 2008-04-29 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reyl.livejournal.com
Good. If there's a god, I'm sure he's a big fan of natural selection. I just wish that the poor girl didn't have to suffer for her parents' ignorance. God doesn't help those who don't help themselves.

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Date: 2008-04-29 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
If there's a god, I'm sure he's a big fan of natural selection.

Otherwise he wouldn't have made so damn much of it, amiright?

It's like mosquitos, and plankton!

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Date: 2008-04-29 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reyl.livejournal.com
And by natural selection I meant that I hope the parents kick it early of something horrible they could have prevented... not that I'm glad their child passed away. I find that very sad.

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Date: 2008-04-29 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giza.livejournal.com
"The Neumanns have said they don't believe in any organized religion or faith but believe that healing comes through prayer."

Wow. So they can't even use the "my priest told me prayer" works as a defense. It's just blind idiocy/ignorance on their part. Astonishing.

The real tragedy is that someone had to die before action was taken against these people.

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Date: 2008-04-30 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_jeremiad/
I think people can believe what they like. The courts had no reason to penalize them before.

To me, the issue isn't that they don't believe in medicine. If you are a legal adult who prefers death over medical treatment, then that is your right.

It is not your right, however, to kill your children because of your beliefs.

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Date: 2008-04-30 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giza.livejournal.com
Yes, you're right.

Guess I should have amended my comment with, "hurting yourself over your beliefs is fine. Hurting others is not."

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Date: 2008-04-30 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
By extension of that statement, religious instruction is child abuse.

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Date: 2008-05-02 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
The child deserved much better. An adult wants to screw their lives up like this or throw it away then that's fine - but they ahve no right to do it to a child. they are unfit as parents if they cannot put their child's welfare before their own desires.

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