As unpleasant as the BNP are, I agree with this decision. If any such teacher brings any sign of the BNP's views into the classroom then they should be thrown out on their ear, but as the BNP are not on the list of illegal organisations in the UK, it seems only reasonable.
Ugh This whole treating the BNP as a political party rather than a hate group makes my head ache. It's because they got seats as MEPs, it becomes harder to treat them as frine when disgusting fools vote for them
I actually agree with the decision. If the group is a legal group, it should not ban you from work. Now, if they get cought teaching hate based things to the kids? That is a different matter entirely. I am totally not in favor of what is effectively thought police.
You have a right to your own beliefs, even if those beliefs are repugnant to me. You just don't have a right to Act on those beliefs in a manner that endangers another persons rights. Someone wants to wear swastika pajamas? Go ahead. Paint a swastika on their car? Ok. Means I know when I see them they are someone I don't want to associate with. Paint a swastika on a black persons car? That is vandelism, and gets jail time for a hate crime.
I think people who condemn fantasy reading are evil and hypocritical. Why should they be in charge of children? If they can control their behaviour so that their hatred of nonwhites does not effect their teaching, good for them.
Hahahaha, you're stupid enough to think that there's an equivalence or even a valid comparison or analogy there. My sympathies for the difficulties you must have faced in life.
You're right, not being willing to put people who hate nonwhite people in charge of nonwhite children is totes judgemental, just like not letting a kleptomaniac hang out in your house unsupervised or not letting an arsonist play with fire.
I believe in judging actions not beliefs. You apparently believe you can teach tolerance through intolerance, where from what I have seen? It just breeds worse intolerance.
OMG, you think there's a difference between actions and beliefs. Amazing. Also you believe that tolerance involves being tolerant of people who are restrained only by their inferior numbers from murdering you. That's hilarious and a classic example of why liberals are so massively pathetic.
No, I don't get it either, but not all the BNP members are automatically racist; the party line for years has been taht they're explicitly not racist, and have been on a recruitment drive saying as much.
You and I know it's not true (and I live close enough to enough of them), but that doesn't mean every member is a white supremacist arsehole. Sure, it makes it incredibly likely, but it's not guaranteed.
Membership of a legal organisation should not prevent employment in a professional capacity. Whether that organisation is legal is of course currently under legal review.
The BNP's party line is the same neo-segregationist line spouted by nearly every white supremacist and race-hate group in the modern day. The BNP does not have a purpose in existing beyond promoting hatred of non-whites, and anybody who would join it should be judged for that rather than assuming that there's some kind of legitimate, non-race-hate reason to join it.
Seriously, I've been out campaigning in BNP areas over the last few months. A lot of their supporters believe them when they say stuff like "we're not racist" and "we're what Labour used to be".
I know, personally, at least one muslim of asian descent who was planning to vote for them before we set him straight.
At the moment, they're actively promoting anti-islamic stuff, and appealing for votes from people who are scared of muslims.
Combine that with the areas they're most active, frequently 'safe' wards where LAbour have held the seat for decades and the other parties have withdrawn to fight in more favourable districts, and they also attract a lot of "anti-Labour" voters, again some of whom will believe the "not racist" line (or simply not know any better).
I have no clue, at all, how a teacher can not know this stuff, but I've met very highly qualified graduates who're completely clueless about basic stuff outside their speciality.
Not every BNP supportet/member is a racist. Most are.
Both of those are statements of fact, I can't link to prove the former, but I've met such people, they exist.
Regardless, 10,000 members in total across the entire country, some of whom are "family" members and similar. Tiny little sect with very little genuine electoral support. Much of which is protest/ignorance anyway.
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Date: 2010-03-12 09:47 pm (UTC)You have a right to your own beliefs, even if those beliefs are repugnant to me. You just don't have a right to Act on those beliefs in a manner that endangers another persons rights. Someone wants to wear swastika pajamas? Go ahead. Paint a swastika on their car? Ok. Means I know when I see them they are someone I don't want to associate with. Paint a swastika on a black persons car? That is vandelism, and gets jail time for a hate crime.
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Date: 2010-03-12 11:59 pm (UTC)You're so open-minded your brain's fallen out.
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Date: 2010-03-13 12:30 am (UTC)No, I don't get it either, but not all the BNP members are automatically racist; the party line for years has been taht they're explicitly not racist, and have been on a recruitment drive saying as much.
You and I know it's not true (and I live close enough to enough of them), but that doesn't mean every member is a white supremacist arsehole. Sure, it makes it incredibly likely, but it's not guaranteed.
Membership of a legal organisation should not prevent employment in a professional capacity. Whether that organisation is legal is of course currently under legal review.
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Date: 2010-03-13 12:34 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2010-03-13 12:43 am (UTC)Seriously, I've been out campaigning in BNP areas over the last few months. A lot of their supporters believe them when they say stuff like "we're not racist" and "we're what Labour used to be".
I know, personally, at least one muslim of asian descent who was planning to vote for them before we set him straight.
At the moment, they're actively promoting anti-islamic stuff, and appealing for votes from people who are scared of muslims.
Combine that with the areas they're most active, frequently 'safe' wards where LAbour have held the seat for decades and the other parties have withdrawn to fight in more favourable districts, and they also attract a lot of "anti-Labour" voters, again some of whom will believe the "not racist" line (or simply not know any better).
I have no clue, at all, how a teacher can not know this stuff, but I've met very highly qualified graduates who're completely clueless about basic stuff outside their speciality.
Not every BNP supportet/member is a racist. Most are.
Both of those are statements of fact, I can't link to prove the former, but I've met such people, they exist.
Regardless, 10,000 members in total across the entire country, some of whom are "family" members and similar. Tiny little sect with very little genuine electoral support. Much of which is protest/ignorance anyway.
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Date: 2010-03-13 12:45 am (UTC)