Fox News: "We don't know about the moon."
Jan. 7th, 2011 04:48 pm"I'll tell you why [religion's] not a scam, in my opinion: tide goes in, tide goes out. Never a miscommunication. You can't explain that. See, the water, the tide comes in and it goes out, Mr. Silverman. It always comes in, and always goes out. You can't explain that. Duh, I eat poop." -Bill O'Reilly.
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Date: 2011-01-07 10:38 pm (UTC)However, pointing out that all religion is irrational, because if it wasn't nonsense they'd call it something other than "religion", is not an "attack". It's simply the truth.
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Date: 2011-01-07 11:00 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-01-07 11:10 pm (UTC)Point is, gravity exists: this is a fact. The earth's tides are caused by gravity: this is a fact. The moon is the source of tidal gravity: This is a fact. All of this is grade-school shit, and Fox's signature host doesn't believe it.
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Date: 2011-01-08 01:54 am (UTC)also, BOR seems to be misinformed about tidal regularity ... sometimes the tide doesn't come back in.
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Date: 2011-01-08 02:04 am (UTC)a great many people who rock up at churches (etc) do so for social reasons, not because they 'believe'. if asked, they will often say that they believe, but that's part of the 'price of membership' of the social club.
many do believe. for a great many reasons. many of them good reasons.
but none of that establishes evidence for the existence of the object of the belief - at least not the obvious object.
however, there is a lot of evidence - sociological, psychological, and so on - that suggests that religious practices and religious beliefs have more to do with social cohesion than 'magic superfriend(s)'. also, (and particularly in evangelical communities) the object of worship is peripherally deity: the actual focus of the worship is the priest (by whatever label).
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Date: 2011-01-08 02:51 am (UTC)Yeah, up until that last sentence, you were making sense.
As soon as you said "there are good reasons for sincere belief in magic", you crossed the line and started arguing in favour of magic. Which obligates you to either *defend* your statement that magic really exists and really does real things by magical means, or retract it.
(Hint: Nobody in the history of the universe has successfully argued that magic exists and does magical things by magical means. You might be the first, but I doubt it - you must start by coming up with a COMPLETLEY NEW argument, because every last previous argument, without exception, has been absolutely proven either wrong, or completely untestable and thus as meaningless as every other untestable hypothesis.)
There are tons of studies that show that unoriginal-but-overactive imaginations were useful in creating group cohesion in the bronze age, but none that show that active denial of reality is useful in anything approaching a modern sense.
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Date: 2011-01-08 08:26 am (UTC)Seriously, this is the fucking shit we've been reduced to? "I don't personally understand how something happens so instead of picking up a GOD DAMN HIGH SCHOOL SCIENCE TEXT BOOK ON OCEANOGRAPHY I'M JUST GOING TO THANK THE MAGIC SKY GOD FOR GIVING ME A GNARLY SET TO THRASH!!!"
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Date: 2011-01-08 07:24 pm (UTC)Horned lizard reacts to Bill O'Reilly
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Date: 2011-01-08 02:15 pm (UTC)and take advantage of the surf.(no subject)
Date: 2011-01-08 04:44 pm (UTC)It might have been shock at the stupidity of O'Reilly's argument, but he missed an excellent chance to make O'Reilly look like an ass...
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Date: 2011-01-08 07:54 pm (UTC)Consistent with O'Reilly's planetary-body-sized ego. May he be devoured by xenomorphs.
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