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"I'll tell you why [religion's] not a scam, in my opinion: tide goes in, tide goes out. Never a miscommunication. You can't explain that. See, the water, the tide comes in and it goes out, Mr. Silverman. It always comes in, and always goes out. You can't explain that. Duh, I eat poop." -Bill O'Reilly.

Related: Magnets, how do those work?

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Date: 2011-01-07 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaosrah.livejournal.com
Wow. Holy crap, wow. Reposting.

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Date: 2011-01-07 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kadath.livejournal.com
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

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Date: 2011-01-07 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Does HE know how magnets work?

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Date: 2011-01-07 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kadath.livejournal.com
Same reason gravity does. Angels.

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Date: 2011-01-07 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arielstarshadow.livejournal.com
Yeah, this is making the rounds - and Silverman's expression is priceless. I will say, however, that I don't agree with Silverman's attacks on religion, just as I don't agree with religion's attacks on atheists. Silverman's billboard was the equivalent of a troll making a post on a very public forum because the troll wanted to make people foam at the mouth.

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Date: 2011-01-07 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
I have no idea who Silverman is. I've never heard of him.

However, pointing out that all religion is irrational, because if it wasn't nonsense they'd call it something other than "religion", is not an "attack". It's simply the truth.

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Date: 2011-01-07 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ydna.livejournal.com
Do we have to admit we're still not completely sure how gravity works.

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Date: 2011-01-07 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
We're not completely sure *why* it works, although we have working theories. *How* it works is totally well-documented math.

Point is, gravity exists: this is a fact. The earth's tides are caused by gravity: this is a fact. The moon is the source of tidal gravity: This is a fact. All of this is grade-school shit, and Fox's signature host doesn't believe it.

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Date: 2011-01-07 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silmaril.livejournal.com
....wait, what?

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Date: 2011-01-08 12:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
"Fuckin' magnets, how do THEY fuckin' work? Duh, I eat poop!" - Bill O'Reilly.

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Date: 2011-01-08 01:00 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fearmeforiampink
Had someone going "Lets hope that's a Poe" on this, so I hunted down a video of the interview

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Date: 2011-01-08 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
You didn't think O'PoopEater really said it?

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Date: 2011-01-08 01:54 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] maelorin
when one believes that the only book one needs to read is the book (how illiterate do you have to be to not be able to think of a more descriptive name?), it's hard to cope with stuff that ain't in that book.

also, BOR seems to be misinformed about tidal regularity ... sometimes the tide doesn't come back in.

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Date: 2011-01-08 02:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] maelorin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BCipg71LbI

a great many people who rock up at churches (etc) do so for social reasons, not because they 'believe'. if asked, they will often say that they believe, but that's part of the 'price of membership' of the social club.

many do believe. for a great many reasons. many of them good reasons.

but none of that establishes evidence for the existence of the object of the belief - at least not the obvious object.

however, there is a lot of evidence - sociological, psychological, and so on - that suggests that religious practices and religious beliefs have more to do with social cohesion than 'magic superfriend(s)'. also, (and particularly in evangelical communities) the object of worship is peripherally deity: the actual focus of the worship is the priest (by whatever label).

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Date: 2011-01-08 02:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
many do believe. for a great many reasons. many of them good reasons.

Yeah, up until that last sentence, you were making sense.

As soon as you said "there are good reasons for sincere belief in magic", you crossed the line and started arguing in favour of magic. Which obligates you to either *defend* your statement that magic really exists and really does real things by magical means, or retract it.

(Hint: Nobody in the history of the universe has successfully argued that magic exists and does magical things by magical means. You might be the first, but I doubt it - you must start by coming up with a COMPLETLEY NEW argument, because every last previous argument, without exception, has been absolutely proven either wrong, or completely untestable and thus as meaningless as every other untestable hypothesis.)

There are tons of studies that show that unoriginal-but-overactive imaginations were useful in creating group cohesion in the bronze age, but none that show that active denial of reality is useful in anything approaching a modern sense.

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Date: 2011-01-08 08:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cuddlycthulhu.livejournal.com
Well done, TWK, I do believe that the rampant level of stupidity you linked to just made geysers of blood come shooting out of eyes and ears.

Seriously, this is the fucking shit we've been reduced to? "I don't personally understand how something happens so instead of picking up a GOD DAMN HIGH SCHOOL SCIENCE TEXT BOOK ON OCEANOGRAPHY I'M JUST GOING TO THANK THE MAGIC SKY GOD FOR GIVING ME A GNARLY SET TO THRASH!!!"

FUCK
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Fucking blood-geysers, how do they work?

Date: 2011-01-08 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com
Or a middle-school textbook on "Earth science".

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Date: 2011-01-08 07:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ashbet
Sorry I can't embed, posting from my phone:

Horned lizard reacts to Bill O'Reilly

-- A ;)

If everybody had an ocean...

Date: 2011-01-08 02:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] frith
This bit sounds similar to the OJ Simpson trial 'Wookie Argument' as mocked on Southpark. I move that we adjorn to Endor to deliberate and take advantage of the surf.

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Date: 2011-01-08 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chrisrw109.livejournal.com
Bill O'Reilly may be a complete moron, but Silverman loses something just short of infinite points fot not being able to able to say 'I certainly can explain it ...' and referencing the Moon.

It might have been shock at the stupidity of O'Reilly's argument, but he missed an excellent chance to make O'Reilly look like an ass...

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Date: 2011-01-08 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eididdy.livejournal.com
Oh Sky Cake, why are you so delicious?

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Date: 2011-01-08 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krinndnz.livejournal.com
"I can't explain it, therefore it can't be explained."

Consistent with O'Reilly's planetary-body-sized ego. May he be devoured by xenomorphs.
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Volcanoes represent!

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