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Hey Leigh: Why do you bother trying to talk to Kratman? Dude is *literally* a neo-nazi. Not a "his political positions are fascist therefore" nazi, a literal no-doubt-possible argues-repeatedly-in-print-in-his-own-words nazi, claiming the Waffen SS were the only military force on earth truly capable of saving civilisation from the dirty non-white foreigners.

Dude has spent years not just as a white supremacist, but as a *literal* nazi-fetishist. Why treat him any differently than David Lane or William Pierce?

EDIT: Oh, right, I forgot he obsessively ego-googles. And has shown up here, with an impressively Kratmanlike "How dare you say I dislike minorities? Some of my best friends are minorities! You are a bad person because you are a minority and they are all bad people!" in the *very first comment*.

My "why bother engaging, he's a bigoted moron" question still stands. I've corrected the problem of his arguing the point here, because, well, "why bother engaging, he's a bigoted moron." If he'd like to correct that, he has his own website, and a publisher. He doesn't get space here, any more than David Duke does.

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Date: 2012-01-21 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tom kratman (from livejournal.com)
My very brown wife would be most surprised to discover I am a white supremecist. You silly cocksucker.

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Date: 2012-01-21 06:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] falconwarrior.livejournal.com
"Some of my best friends are lesser humans!"

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Date: 2012-01-21 07:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
"I object to the accurate allegations that I am prejudiced against minorities, you pejorative term for a minority that I assume you must be!"

Impressive, even for you.

But having just asked why someone wastes their time arguing with you, what makes you think I'm going to waste my time arguing with you?

Go away.

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Date: 2012-01-21 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unnamed525.livejournal.com
I'm calling the whambulance to take care of your butthurt right now.

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Date: 2012-01-21 04:43 pm (UTC)
ext_6388: Avon from Blake's 7 fails to show an emotion (R U SRS)
From: [identity profile] fridgepunk.livejournal.com
The correct term is "brunette".

And Hair Colour != ethnicity anyway. I know hitler thought otherwise. Hitler lied.

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Date: 2012-01-22 07:27 pm (UTC)
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Judging from your own pictures of her, as brown goes she is not very brown at all.

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Date: 2012-01-21 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spartonian.livejournal.com
I've clearly not been privy to an interesting exchange.

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Date: 2012-01-21 05:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tom kratman (from livejournal.com)
No interesting exchange. "Weasel" fits the weasel pretty well. So does liar. So does fool.

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Date: 2012-01-21 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tom kratman (from livejournal.com)
Of course, she - http://www.tomkratman.com/yoli.html - joins me at the weekly Klan meetings. A white sheet and hood cover so much.

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Date: 2012-01-21 08:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
"Interesting" is not the word for it. Pretty much the opposite of the word for it, in fact.

tor.com had an article on sexism in science fiction. (http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/01/admirals-and-amazons-women-in-military-science-fiction) Kratman decided to comment.

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Date: 2012-01-21 08:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_gethsemane_/
I have no idea what any of this stuff is about, but that dude is a lazy eyed psycho.

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.

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Date: 2012-01-21 09:48 am (UTC)
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What, lazy-eyed is an insult?

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Date: 2012-01-21 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lurkerwithout.livejournal.com
Ah, it got shut down. Once I started just ignoring all of Kratman's post swarms there was some interesting discussion going on...

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Date: 2012-01-21 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skiriki.livejournal.com
Oh hey, that's right, Kratman was perma-banned from RPG.net. "For repeated PAs, for admitted trolling, and for tenaciously defending bigotry."

No wonder the name sounded so familiar.

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Date: 2012-01-21 05:09 pm (UTC)
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...I didn't know you could do that.

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Date: 2012-01-21 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
Migod, he does not appear to be there. (On the wiki, I mean.)
Edited Date: 2012-01-21 05:12 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2012-01-21 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missysedai.livejournal.com
What a charmer.

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Date: 2012-01-22 06:25 am (UTC)
ext_8707: Taken in front of Carnegie Hall (sherman)
From: [identity profile] ronebofh.livejournal.com
So, seriously, who the fuck is Tom Kratman and why should i care that Leigh talks to him? Who the hell is Leigh, anyway?

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Date: 2012-01-22 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
Leigh is (to me), the pleasant and rather funny and insightful lady who's doing a read of Ice and Fire on Tor.com; she also did a Wheel of Time reread that I keep meaning to check out. [livejournal.com profile] theweaselking's known her longer and better.

Kratman, insofar as I can tell, writes books and behaves uncouthly online.

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Date: 2012-01-22 07:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaundicedaye.livejournal.com
Does this HAVE to be the longest thread for January?

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Date: 2012-01-22 01:19 pm (UTC)
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There's a week and a half left. Weaselking could very well poke something else in the eye in that time. :P

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Date: 2012-01-22 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whisperkit.livejournal.com
This post's comments are so full of entertainment. Thankyou. Plus, I have a new name in scifi to avoid if I ever come across his stuff (unlikely, but hey).

And I have new words! Shitspittle and shitnozzle! Awesome.

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Date: 2012-01-24 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theome.livejournal.com
This is me getting caught up on LJ. Holy shit, man. This is impressive that you've invoked this "conservative" ire.

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Date: 2012-07-05 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mzmadmike.livejournal.com
What's hilarious is watching a "liberal" racist insist loudly that they're not racist, just look at this other guy over here, who must be a racist because we say he is.

That, and assuming that an author's characters are the author.

By "hilarious" I mean "pathetic" of course.

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Date: 2012-07-05 11:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Congratulations! You're six months late, and apparently haven't bothered to read the thread. Please try - start with Tom Kratman's own comments, then, after I ban him for openly being a bigoted asshole, try to pick up where Tom Kratman's Left Sock left off.

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