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The iPhone 6 is the Nexus 4, already severals years out of date and with obsolete crapware instead of a modern OS.

The Nexus 4/iPhone 6 was revolutionary, several years ago. There's been many revolutions since then and the best opinion one could have about a current iPhone 6 buyer is "pity".

I bet...

Date: 2014-09-20 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lsanderson.livejournal.com
You are really popular amongst all of your Applegentsia friends!

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Date: 2014-09-20 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
They love me. And also are wrong about phones.

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Date: 2014-09-21 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skington.livejournal.com
Oh come on, don't be shy. You think they're wrong about everything.

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Date: 2014-09-21 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Untrue! While deliberately choosing to overpay for an objectively inferior product that is already several years obsolete indicates a frightening failure in thinking, I do not then assume that they fail at thinking in this way about EVERYTHING.

It's just a warning sign.

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Date: 2014-09-20 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] franklanguage.livejournal.com
I take it the Nexus is an Android?

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Date: 2014-09-20 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
It's the Google phone of 2012. The iPhone 6 is identical to the Nexus 4 in every respect, except that the iPhone 6 has a worse screen.

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Date: 2014-09-21 10:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jayblanc.livejournal.com
The 2012 Nexus 4 has a locked-in-hardware secure token exchange NFC chip for a a system that wasn't invented yet? The Nexus 4 which benchmarked slower than the iPhone 5, is as fast as the iPhone 6? The camera aperture and sensor that was worse than the iPhone 5 (and really most other 8mp camera phones of the time), is just as good as the iPhone 6's? The Nexus 4's plastic body and glass disco-ball glitter backplate is entirely the same as the iPhone 6? I'll concede that the Nexus 4's highest amount of storage at 16G is just the same as the iPhone 6's lowest amount of 16G.

The 2012 Nexus 4 was fine, but it's hardly identical to an iPhone 5 let alone the 6. They couldn't possibly have made one and charge the price they wanted to. For the price point, it does well. Except for the camera, because they went with a really awful sensor package that let them quote 8mp, but is full of noise.

When you say 'Identical in every respect', and it's not, it kind of looks like you're either trolling, or succumbing to your own fanboy side.

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Date: 2014-09-24 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com

just treat your iPhone like you would any other SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLAR ELECTRONIC DEVICE MADE OF GLASS and you will be fine ffs

— darthâ„¢ (@darth) September 24, 2014 (https://twitter.com/darth/status/514601967704748032)

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Date: 2014-09-24 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
Having had an iTouch (don't blame me, it was a gift) whose screen liked to shatter from light caresses and quick glances, the new trend of everyone else pushing glass glass glass along with Apple is frustrating.

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Date: 2014-09-24 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Early iDevices tended to crack if you took them outside in February, in Canada. They weren't rated for -40 temps.

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Date: 2014-09-21 12:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dominitus.livejournal.com
My view is that if you feel any negative emotion at all towards someone based on their choice of phone you're a strange person whose thinking I do not understand.

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Date: 2014-09-21 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamshade.livejournal.com
Is there a non-phone version of the Nexus? As in, I don't really need to own a smartphone and pay the accompanying data charges, but I've mostly enjoyed owning an iPod Touch for mp3s and wifi browsing.

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Date: 2014-09-21 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pappy-legba.livejournal.com
The Nexus 7 is a small tablet, about the best out there. You can get it cheap(ish) at the moment because the newer model is expected out soon.

That's bigger than an ipod touch, of course. If you want something of that form factor, your best bet might be to buy a phone and use it only on wifi. A modern smartphone's wifi functions work independently of cellular service; just yank the sim and any iphone is effectively an ipod touch. The nexus 5 can be had for around $300 I believe.

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Date: 2014-09-21 06:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] errolwi.livejournal.com
My Samsung S2 (so, fairly old) started regularly crashing processes a few months ago. Got a new phone (Sony X1 Mini), keeping the S2 around while I transferred stuff - it was a few days before I sat down to do a full transfer of app data, using the Sony transfer app. I noticed that the S2 was much more stable when it didn't have a SIM it, so it wasn't using the phone bits.

It was handy when we went to a Fijian resort, as I read a different book on it than the new phone, and would swap if one of them was low on power (have never got around to sharing bookmarks through Dropbox or whatever). And whichever was closest was fine for low-demand web browsing (e.g. Feedly) on wifi (we had a tablet if we wanted a bigger screen).

A second-hand iphone is an option, so long as it will run a available version of iTunes that will interface with where your mp3's are. Android is bit more flexible in this regard?

Aren't there cheap, decent WinPhones too?

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Date: 2014-09-21 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamshade.livejournal.com
I generally avoid tablets since I want a thing that fits in my pocket. And yes, any modern smartphone can be a dumb wifi browser, but an iPod Touch is half the thickness and half the price of its cousin with the phone functions.

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Date: 2014-09-22 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pappy-legba.livejournal.com
Like I said the Nexus 5 is $300-- half the price of a contemporary iphone. The Nexus 4 is even cheaper because you'd be buying used/refurb.

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Date: 2014-09-23 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamshade.livejournal.com
My iPod Touch was under $200 new when I bought it a few years ago. *shrug* But true, a used smartphone might be worth the price of entry.

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Date: 2014-09-22 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
The Nexus is thinner and lighter than the iPhone, but not as much so as the Touch. Still, it's already got "less than half the price" beat.

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Date: 2014-09-23 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamshade.livejournal.com
Fair enough.

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Date: 2014-09-21 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
What he said: Nexus 7 isn't a phone, but it's a tablet-sized tablet not a phone-sized tablet. For a phone-sized android tablet, just get a phone and don't put in a SIM card. Bonus: your phone-sized tablet can now dial 911! If you stick in a data-plan-less SIM card, it will work as a normal cellphone.

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Date: 2014-09-21 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sebkha.livejournal.com
Man, i hate it when my favorite band sucks....

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Date: 2014-09-21 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peterchayward.livejournal.com
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/iphone-6-vs-nexus-4-silly-comparison-apple-crushes-lgs-smartphone-1465284

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Date: 2014-09-21 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
So the article writer's "points" are about all the things the image *doesn't* talk about (processor, camera, LTE) and tries to use that to complain that the image is wrong? And when he actually does address things the image talks about, he admits that it's correct and Apple is just barely catching up to where Android was years ago?

A phone from 2014 that didn't have a better processor and camera than one from 2012 would be unusual. You don't get points for keeping up with Moore's Law, and you don't get points for beating a 2 year old device. In the mean time, when the "brand new features" that you're touting to the world as revolutionary are barely as good as the ones on that 2yo device? That's mockworthy.

(also: "Hold it in your hand and you'll agree that it feels absolutely premium. " yeah no, article wrtier. iPhones feel fat, stubby, blocky, clunky, heavy, and awkward, and they waste an annoying amount of screen space on a pointless frontside hardware button - I generally don't think of that as "premium". Definitely different than the Nexus, though.)

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Date: 2014-09-23 12:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peterchayward.livejournal.com
I posted it as a specific rebuttal to your statement that "The iPhone 6 is the Nexus 4"

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Date: 2014-09-23 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kafziel.livejournal.com
Which would be great if the article rebutted anything.

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Date: 2014-09-23 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
It does point out that "in several ways (unrelated to features), the iPhone 6 is better than 2012 phone". Which is still damning with faint praise, but technically true: the iPhone is *faster* than a Nexus 4, even if it still lacks essential features deployed several years ago in real phones, even if it touts bare-minimum 2008-ish features like "can use something other than the crappy Apple keyboard" as revolutionary.

It does have a faster processor. Good job, Apple.

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