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"Uh, dude? 'Just stick that drive in a different machine and recover the data' may be a LITTLE harder than anticipated."

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Date: 2014-11-18 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pappy-legba.livejournal.com
Is this something you can twease apart (with considerable effort and risk of breaking pins?)

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Date: 2014-11-18 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
The good news is, the plug isn't jammed or anything. The cable just snapped. With a pair of pliers to get a grip, the piece came out smoothly and the disk works.

Just... "that's not normal".

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Date: 2014-11-18 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pappy-legba.livejournal.com
No. Not even remotely. I have never seen a ribbon cable, especially not one of those old wide ATA suckers, snap. I wonder if it was subject to unusual heating, or physical abuse, or just a manufacturing defect.

What caused this mass dying?

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Date: 2014-11-18 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Building power off. Building power on.

(along with a bunch of "REPEATS" in the middle, I suspect.)

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Date: 2014-11-18 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thornae.livejournal.com
Is this one of those "non-critical machines don't need UPSs, but we're going to leave them powered up over the weekend anyway" deals?
Because if so, my commiserations - I had much the same experience last month. Fortunately, it only fried 2 power supplies - although, one of those was attached to a UPS, which is how we learned that the UPS was faulty too.

I have explained the importance of powering down at hometime, but those extra couple of clicks at the end of the day are effort, y'know...


Also, I deal with a lot of ribbon cables in my job, and the only times I've seen that happen before are when corrosion has rust-welded the pins to the connector. So yeah - impressive.

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Date: 2014-11-18 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Of the machines that failed, 4 were powered off the entire time, one was a dumb-as-hell 100M workgroup switch, and one was remotely powered on by an overeager admin[1] when power and internet came back up 1.5 hours through the scheduled 3 hour outage and he didn't think to question *WHY* power was on so early or whether work was actually complete, which meant that machine was *on* when the power went out again. The UPS should have helped, but still, 2 hours later everything came back up and that server had lost a power supply.

(So that machine wasn't actually "dead" since only 50% of it's power failed and it can run on 50%. On the other hand, a cleanly shut down Xen hypervisor is MUCH easier to bring back up than one that had the power yanked again after booting)

Essentially, what should have been a 45 minute Saturday turned into *hours* due to human error, and then there were a really wacky number of unexpected hardware failures in the more elderly kit.

[1]: Who was not me, for the record.
Edited Date: 2014-11-18 08:50 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2014-11-18 11:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thornae.livejournal.com
Ah, one of those days. Perhaps the chaos gods of IT are punishing you for that "Why isn't it Friday yet?" post...

And honestly, who spends their Saturday going "Ooh, I wonder if the workplace scheduled outage finished early? Let me just check."...?

The powered-off failures are interesting. Power surges, you reckon, or just bad luck?
Anyway, I think I'll make sure that if I'm ever in such a situation, the protocol will be "Power off and cords yanked, and I'll come in and plug the critical boxes back in when they're finished."

Valuable lessons through the misfortune of others - there's probably a word for it in German.

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Date: 2014-11-19 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
No idea if it was power surges or just crap luck. But I think power surges.

(and it wasn't "check if the outage ended early", it was "the UPSen texted us to tell us power was back on, just like they texted us to tell us it was down". I wisely ignored the text as "probably a fluke, not really relevant, I'm sure as hell not doing this early.")

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Date: 2014-11-18 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
In this case, the machine's power supply *and* motherboard died, so I pulled the disk. But when I pulled on the IDE plug it came off in my hand.

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Date: 2014-11-18 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skiriki.livejournal.com
Ooh dude, you totally should put content warnings, my old sysadmin heart can't deal with this kind of graphic, gore-filled imagery. ;)

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Date: 2014-11-18 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pappy-legba.livejournal.com
TRIGGER WARNING: EXTREME HARDWARE FAILURE

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Date: 2014-11-18 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skiriki.livejournal.com
That's the spirit! :D

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