Great moments in characterisation:
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theweaselking"Multiple perps, heavily armed. Driving erratically, under the influence of drugs. I'm taking fire."
"Do you require backup?"
"No."
Related: Ways in which Dredd is better than Batman:
#1: All. Every way, completely, in every respect, forever.
More specifically: Like Batman, Dredd is the product of a dystopian authoritarian state, and, like Batman, Dredd is literally authorised to kill you on the spot and will never suffer any consequences for doing so. And yet, Dredd treats this authority with respect. Batman does not.
When a (genuine, verified, reliable) psychic Judge tells Dredd that she's 99% certain they have a multiple murderer in custody, Dredd points out that you can't execute on 99%. Meanwhile, Batman will torture someone he thinks *might be* a witness to a crime because he thinks they might be a witness. And after they talk, he beats them senseless in a way that almost certainly leaves them dead.
When criminals are escaping in a vehicle and hit a civilian, Dredd carefully shoots our their tires, stops their car, and pursues on foot. Batman drives a tank and fires rockets that often miss and hit civilian buildings, disregards pedestrian lives in a way not seen since Carmageddon, and has an almost Man-Of-Steel-level disregard for civilians.
When a couple of teenagers confront Dredd with lethal weapons, Dredd goes out of his way to take them alive and treat them as minors. Criminal minors who get time in the iso cubes, granted, but minors. Batman simply beats them to death.
Dredd > Batman. They're the same neofascist authoritarian cop ideal, they have the same pathological fear of poor people (although Dredd is clearly shown to be WRONG to fear the poor, while Batman's narrative constantly reinforces that his terror of poor people is justified. Poor people are, after all, monsters who are just barely held in check by the mores of civilised society and the presence of men with guns ready to shoot them the instant they step out of line), and they have the same absolute immunity from legal consequences. But Dredd *gets* that he is the law, and that his absolute authority carries with it a responsibility. Batman, meanwhile, just wants to beat up people he hates.
"Do you require backup?"
"No."
Related: Ways in which Dredd is better than Batman:
#1: All. Every way, completely, in every respect, forever.
More specifically: Like Batman, Dredd is the product of a dystopian authoritarian state, and, like Batman, Dredd is literally authorised to kill you on the spot and will never suffer any consequences for doing so. And yet, Dredd treats this authority with respect. Batman does not.
When a (genuine, verified, reliable) psychic Judge tells Dredd that she's 99% certain they have a multiple murderer in custody, Dredd points out that you can't execute on 99%. Meanwhile, Batman will torture someone he thinks *might be* a witness to a crime because he thinks they might be a witness. And after they talk, he beats them senseless in a way that almost certainly leaves them dead.
When criminals are escaping in a vehicle and hit a civilian, Dredd carefully shoots our their tires, stops their car, and pursues on foot. Batman drives a tank and fires rockets that often miss and hit civilian buildings, disregards pedestrian lives in a way not seen since Carmageddon, and has an almost Man-Of-Steel-level disregard for civilians.
When a couple of teenagers confront Dredd with lethal weapons, Dredd goes out of his way to take them alive and treat them as minors. Criminal minors who get time in the iso cubes, granted, but minors. Batman simply beats them to death.
Dredd > Batman. They're the same neofascist authoritarian cop ideal, they have the same pathological fear of poor people (although Dredd is clearly shown to be WRONG to fear the poor, while Batman's narrative constantly reinforces that his terror of poor people is justified. Poor people are, after all, monsters who are just barely held in check by the mores of civilised society and the presence of men with guns ready to shoot them the instant they step out of line), and they have the same absolute immunity from legal consequences. But Dredd *gets* that he is the law, and that his absolute authority carries with it a responsibility. Batman, meanwhile, just wants to beat up people he hates.
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Date: 2015-08-11 09:13 pm (UTC)I read up some more and I did find a reference to Moore saying that Rorschach was supposed to be the logical result of the archetype Batman represents. So maybe not parody so much as reality? Your "Rorschach is an absolute pitch-perfect sendup of the archetype that Batman became, despite it being repulsive and stupid" might actually be hitting the nail right on the head.
I meant that Rorschach was the one who was premised off of the Question and Mr. A, not Batman.
Your true story makes me sad.