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Jay brings the funny:
I've never understood why so many men have to resort to date rape drugs. Some of these guys are even pretty good looking, but they immediately spike a prospective date's drink, even though most mickey'd girls will end up swooning/puking at the club and will go home with a friend instead of the criminal who drugged her.

No. Instead, charm a girl. This shouldn't even have to be said. Make a woman laugh. Get her interested. Dance with her. And once you get her back to your place or even to a secluded parking lot, hit her with a brick.

Bricks are legal to own. They're cheap - you can get a pretty good brand new brick at the hardware store for like a buck. Old used ones are like everywhere.

The best part is you get a much more precise dosage with a brick. No worries about using too little - if so, hit her again! If you think she might remember the encounter, hit her again! If she's still struggling, bam! More brick! Accidentally overdo it, and now she's bleeding out? Hit her again! Problem solved (except for the midnight gardening part).

Bricks are reusable, eco-friendly, cheap and easy to get to. There is no good goddamned reason to resort to date rape drugs.
I'm a bad person for laughing.

Re: An ad hominen attack

Date: 2008-08-26 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psyco-path.livejournal.com
You? No. your comments that I've read I have no issue with.

Re: An ad hominen attack

Date: 2008-08-26 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cacahuate.livejournal.com
Thanks, I guess. But I did say "we," as I haven't seen anyone else advocating censorship, either.

Re: An ad hominen attack

Date: 2008-08-26 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psyco-path.livejournal.com
Is anyone saying that he needs taken out of LJ town and banished to the wastes? no. they don't have that level of authority.

Censorship takes many different forms. TWK will more then likely self censor in the future to avoid this sort of argument. I've written a longer and much more mocking version of this idea elsewhere.

Re: An ad hominen attack

Date: 2008-08-26 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
I don't think of it as censorship, any more than cutting pictures of spiders out of consideration for the arachnophobes is.

Re: An ad hominen attack

Date: 2008-08-26 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psyco-path.livejournal.com
Well, you are the writer so I have no right to tell you how to do what you do. You are a big boy and can make your own choices. I know you have no issue with a spirited argument.

I would venture to wager that the wasp nest that this post stirred up did get you to think more about what you cut and what you don't. I would also bet that you will think twice about what content you do post in the future. Something which skirts the edge of this modified version of acceptability may very well not be posted at all. That erring on the side of "tame" or "polite" is a type of self-censorship.

Or depending on who you talk to, I'm immature and eat poo.

Re: An ad hominen attack

Date: 2008-08-26 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cacahuate.livejournal.com
From what I've seen, the discussion has been perfectly civil and nonconfrontational (at least toward TWK) and he doesn't seem to have minded it. Considering that he's hosted much worse flamewars in the recent past, I really doubt this is going to deter him.

I wouldn't want anyone to censor themselves out of fear of retribution, but I do think giving a second thought to how one's actions might affect others is a good thing.

Re: An ad hominen attack

Date: 2008-08-26 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psyco-path.livejournal.com
I won't say how this has or has not affected him. He is a grownup. he can take his ball and go home whenever he wants.

I serve to remind you or anyone else that cares to listen that self censorship is a slippery slope. or to say it another way, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Enough on that. Has this post got large enough where someone calls someone else a nazi?

Re: An ad hominen attack

Date: 2008-08-26 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_jeremiad/
Please reference Slippery Slope Fallacy.

Re: An ad hominen attack

Date: 2008-08-26 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_jeremiad/
Right after you learn how to construct a valid argument.

Re: An ad hominen attack

Date: 2008-08-26 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psyco-path.livejournal.com
I'm sorry. I'm to busy crying over your brilliant tactic of namecalling.

Do it yourself.

Re: An ad hominen attack

Date: 2008-08-26 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_jeremiad/
So, you call me out of my name, but somehow I'm the one namecalling.

I present several reasons for why rape jokes wouldn't be funny to say, rape victims, while your entire argument consists of, "But I like them!"

Then you try to call me out by using a feminist author, and when I retort back with other feminist authors who support my argument you run and hide?

Brilliant. Really.

I'm done with you now.

Re: An ad hominen attack

Date: 2008-08-26 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psyco-path.livejournal.com
Look. to be honest. Rape sucks. I tried to explain why I took issue with what YOU did. You called me illiterate.

I called you a bully.

You said I couldn't make an argument

I alluded to the fact that the definition of rape varies depending on what author you read.

You dismiss people who refuse to back down from your tactics as either privileged males or fools.

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